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To Agnostics, question for you
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RE: To Agnostics, question for you
(March 15, 2014 at 12:55 pm)jesus_wept Wrote:
(March 15, 2014 at 11:55 am)Deidre32 Wrote: 'Agnostic theists" hmmmm lol
So, this is a person who does not know but who thinks he/she "might" know?

Too many labels. :p

No, it's a person who believes in god but doesn't claim to know whether one exists. The opposite of an agnostic atheist.

And this is why the term agnostic is next to useless, it tells us nothing of one's beliefs.
Yes, I see that now.

(March 15, 2014 at 1:37 pm)Mr. Moncrieff Wrote:
(March 13, 2014 at 8:00 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: Just wondering how you descibe Agnosticism if someone asks you of your 'beliefs?' (and you consider yourself Agnostic)

There is a solid definition for the term, but I only know two Agnostics in my offline life, and they describe what it means to them, a little differently than I do. I consider it to be that no one knows if there is a god or not, and I don't need to know. I'm not thirsting for knowledge to know, either way. I reject all past and present religions' notions of a god, as well.

Curious, how you define it for yourself?

I am a man who used to believe in a fundamental God.

I began to have doubts and stopped believing in a fundamental God and ended up hoping in a personal God.

I then became disillusioned and stopped believing in a God, but was willing to consider the possibility that SOMETHING OTHER was there.

Now, I rather consider that God is completely unknowable in this life and is highly improbable due to many facts.

I am 99.9% certain there is no God and consider religion to be a fallacy and a fraudulent abuse of the people. I have never discounted the possibility that I could be wrong, predicated upon the fact that my assumption is wholly unknowable and beyond proof, but I consider the possibility of God to be fundamentally at odd with reality itself.

You couldn't have worded this any better. Very insightful, and spot on as to what I have been *believing* for a long time, and now *believe.*

APPRECIATE VERY MUCH EVERYONE'S THOUGHTS TO MY QUESTION!
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To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 13, 2014 at 8:00 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Jackalope - March 14, 2014 at 1:33 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by fr0d0 - March 14, 2014 at 1:53 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by MysticKnight - March 14, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by fr0d0 - March 15, 2014 at 1:39 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Bob Kelso - March 15, 2014 at 2:24 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by fr0d0 - March 15, 2014 at 6:02 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Napoléon - March 14, 2014 at 6:21 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 14, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 14, 2014 at 8:18 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Napoléon - March 14, 2014 at 8:22 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 14, 2014 at 8:26 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by heathendegenerate - March 14, 2014 at 10:23 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 15, 2014 at 2:02 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Rahul - March 14, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Napoléon - March 14, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Rahul - March 14, 2014 at 10:20 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Napoléon - March 14, 2014 at 10:25 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Rahul - March 14, 2014 at 10:31 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by heathendegenerate - March 14, 2014 at 11:04 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Tonus - March 14, 2014 at 8:24 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 14, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 15, 2014 at 10:08 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Tonus - March 15, 2014 at 11:49 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Bad Writer - March 14, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Simon Moon - March 14, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 14, 2014 at 8:49 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Rahul - March 14, 2014 at 8:56 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 14, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Bob Kelso - March 14, 2014 at 9:09 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 14, 2014 at 9:20 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by jesus_wept - March 16, 2014 at 10:50 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Bob Kelso - March 14, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Bad Writer - March 14, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Bob Kelso - March 14, 2014 at 9:52 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by jesus_wept - March 15, 2014 at 5:53 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by OGirly - March 15, 2014 at 9:33 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 15, 2014 at 10:25 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Alex K - March 15, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by OGirly - March 15, 2014 at 1:37 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Alex K - March 15, 2014 at 10:15 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 15, 2014 at 11:55 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by jesus_wept - March 15, 2014 at 12:55 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Alex K - March 15, 2014 at 1:29 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 15, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Napoléon - March 15, 2014 at 1:43 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 15, 2014 at 8:42 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by jesus_wept - March 15, 2014 at 8:59 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 15, 2014 at 9:08 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by jesus_wept - March 15, 2014 at 9:20 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 15, 2014 at 11:52 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by jesus_wept - March 16, 2014 at 6:55 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 15, 2014 at 9:09 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by jesus_wept - March 15, 2014 at 1:51 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Mr. Moncrieff - March 15, 2014 at 1:37 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 15, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by tor - March 15, 2014 at 8:59 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 15, 2014 at 9:09 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by petrichorpeace - March 15, 2014 at 9:46 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 15, 2014 at 10:08 pm
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by fr0d0 - March 16, 2014 at 1:02 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Tonus - March 16, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 16, 2014 at 12:19 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Whateverist - March 16, 2014 at 9:57 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Severan - March 16, 2014 at 10:50 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by *Deidre* - March 16, 2014 at 11:01 am
RE: To Agnostics, question for you - by Bittersmart - March 16, 2014 at 1:20 pm

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