(April 25, 2014 at 1:39 am)Esquilax Wrote:(April 25, 2014 at 1:15 am)Coffee Jesus Wrote: How do they argue for the first premise?
Generally- and I'm serious here- they go with "it says so in the bible."
That's why it's presuppositional: they presuppose the bible is true, and therefore everything it says in there is a problem for everyone else... so deal with it.
It's a combination of that and some sort of BS about Christianity being "the only tradition that supports logic, reason and ethics."
I've seen and heard cursorily "coherent" arguments, but have trouble paraphrasing them because, frankly, it turns my stomach, and circular reasoning should be dismissed out of hand. But that can appear to "reinforce" their argument, and they'll claim it does.
There's a good summary given by the Reasonable Doubts podcast here:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/reasonabledo...cs-part-2/