Hey if I didn't talk about imaginary God's how would I have ever known that they were imaginary in the first place? In this case I'm talking about it so you and other theists see my point of view.
My point is it doesn't matter what a supernatural God is like, he's still imaginary.
Supernatural=imaginary. Almost certainly.
So I already understand this, but I was just trying to explain it.
I was trying to explain to you CR that Pascal's Wager is not 'somewhat weak', IMO it is totally weak, because no matter what imaginary God you conceive of, there's still no reason to be afraid or hell and longing for heaven whatever the God is like. Because IF heaven and hell exists you're just as likely (as far as we know) to go to Heaven OR hell whatever you are like as a person. Whatever you're beliefs are and whether you're good, bad a saint or totally evil, or whatever.
There's no reason to be afraid of the afterlife or craving for it.
And most of all, IF God exists and he wants genuine belief (and IF he exists there's no reason to believe he does)...Belief is not a matter of policy anyway so if you don't believe him you can't help it and if you believe in him you are just lucky you do! Because you can't choose genuine (not faked) belief out of sheer will power.
So when you said, CR, that Pascal's Wager 'sucks somewhat' I simply tried to explain and go into detail about why it is about as weak as an argument as you can possibly get. Its a trick, whether it was designed to be or not...
...Because it only works if you fall for it!
My point is it doesn't matter what a supernatural God is like, he's still imaginary.
Supernatural=imaginary. Almost certainly.
So I already understand this, but I was just trying to explain it.
I was trying to explain to you CR that Pascal's Wager is not 'somewhat weak', IMO it is totally weak, because no matter what imaginary God you conceive of, there's still no reason to be afraid or hell and longing for heaven whatever the God is like. Because IF heaven and hell exists you're just as likely (as far as we know) to go to Heaven OR hell whatever you are like as a person. Whatever you're beliefs are and whether you're good, bad a saint or totally evil, or whatever.
There's no reason to be afraid of the afterlife or craving for it.
And most of all, IF God exists and he wants genuine belief (and IF he exists there's no reason to believe he does)...Belief is not a matter of policy anyway so if you don't believe him you can't help it and if you believe in him you are just lucky you do! Because you can't choose genuine (not faked) belief out of sheer will power.
So when you said, CR, that Pascal's Wager 'sucks somewhat' I simply tried to explain and go into detail about why it is about as weak as an argument as you can possibly get. Its a trick, whether it was designed to be or not...
...Because it only works if you fall for it!
