Intelligent Design: Did you design yourself?
May 29, 2014 at 1:49 pm
(This post was last modified: May 29, 2014 at 1:50 pm by Rampant.A.I..)
(May 29, 2014 at 1:05 pm)Heywood Wrote:(May 29, 2014 at 12:30 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Lol. That's it? Copypasta from an Intelligent Design website claiming ID is science?
The point of the quote was to define the concept we are talking about. If we are talking about the concept of the selfish gene....wouldn't we quote Dawkins book, The Selfish Gene?
Your criticism here is utterly ridiculous.
Irrelevant. Your response was to someone stating ID doesn't qualify as a scientific theory, you responded with a quote from an ID website claiming ID is a scientific theory.
(May 29, 2014 at 12:30 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: It's also laboratory created by humans. Funny you can't seem to find a similar example in nature.
(May 29, 2014 at 1:05 pm)Heywood Wrote: I don't need to find a similar example in nature to prove the concept that certain features of universe are intelligently designed. If abiogenesis is created in a lab, you don't need to observe it in nature to say it exists. You don't need to observe it in nature to be justified in looking for it in nature. Are atheists so afraid of the possibility of an intellect behind creation that they are compelled to try to shut down the idea of looking for evidence of such an intellect?
This has nothing to do with atheism. You advance the claim that natural organisms are intelligently designed, yet the only example of this claimed intelligent design is from a laboratory setting.
Neither atheism nor science advance any such claims, and you have not only failed to support the claims of ID, you've demonstrated how they are even more improbable by giving an example of an intelligently designed organism unlike anything witnessed in nature.
(May 29, 2014 at 12:30 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Except we have substantial evidence it did evolve.
(May 29, 2014 at 1:05 pm)Heywood Wrote: Where is this substantial evidence? Have we replicated its evolution in the lab? If so I would be very interested in reading about it. Right now, as far as I know, only a pathway by which it could have evolved has been suggested. I wouldn't call a proposed pathway by which it could have evolved to be substantial evidence that it did in fact evolve.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13...4dwsIm9LCQ
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_flagella
http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/d...ticle.html
http://evolutionfaq.com
http://www.microbemagazine.org/index.php...Itemid=674
http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/w...agella.htm
http://youtube.com/watch?v=a_5FToP_mMY