Parts of the Bible theists on this board ignore

[Wyrd of Gawd]

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I want to start collecting lines of scripture that apply either to deliberate trolling by theists, or deliberate provocation by insinuations that secular people are amoral.

I've noticed a common trend in theists who visit the board: self-righteous, conceited condemnation of secularism, accusations of immoral behavior, to outright accusations of being "Godless filth."

Specifically those who are here with intent to harass, irritate, provoke, and then claim persecution or superior "moral character" when insults are returned.



Here are some to start it off:

Colossians 3:21 You fathers, do not be exasperating your children, so that they do not become downhearted.

Ephesians 6:4 And you, fathers, do not be irritating your children, but go on bringing them up in the discipline and mental-regulating of Jehovah

Proverbs 10:18 ESV The one who conceals hatred has lying lips, and whoever utters slander is a fool.

Psalm 101:5 Whoever slanders his neighbor secretly I will destroy. Whoever has a haughty look and an arrogant heart I will not endure.

Proverbs 12:16 ESV The vexation of a fool is known at once, but the prudent ignores an insult.

Exodus 23:1 ESV “You shall not spread a false report. You shall not join hands with a wicked man to be a malicious witness."

Leviticus 19:16 ESV You shall not go around as a slanderer among your people, and you shall not stand up against the life of your neighbor: I am the Lord.

Matthew 6:14-15 ESV For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Luke 3:14 “Do not harass anybody or accuse anybody falsely, but be satisfied with your provisions.”

Psalm 36:2 For he flattereth himself in his own eyes, until his iniquity is found hateful.

Psalm 6:19 God abhors.....A false witness that speaketh lies, and soweth discord among the brethren.

1 John 2:4 ESV Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him

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I'm not understanding the correlation between your cited scriptures and the mission statement of this post. For example Colossians 3:21. The only way for this scripture to be applicable to Christians being "trolls, provoking, self-righteous, conceited condemnation of secularism, accusations of immoral behavior, to outright accusations of being "Godless filth." etc. would be if you were one of the Christian member's children. Please help me out.

I'm not asking you to "call anyone out" but some specific examples would help as well.

There's also the bit in 2 Thessalonians (can't be arsed to look up chapter and verse at the moment) which says, 'And for this reason, God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.'
Well, if God is willing to delude people into believing lies, then why should we trust anything that his followers say he says?
Boru

2 Thessalonians 2:10-12
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
The cause of the strong delusion is a result of a person not receiving the love of the truth. If you do not want the strong delusion, repent and receive the love of the truth.

There was a guest on TTA who quoted this, and asked since Abraham was deliberately deceived, with God already knowing the outcome, and the extent of Abraham's faith, why would he ask Abraham to sacrifice his son as a "test of faith" other than a willingness to deceive?

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A false dichotomy. God could have asked Abraham to sacrifice his son not so that He could learn the outcome, nor as a willingness to decieve, but rather so that Abraham could learn what kind of faith he has. It can also be viewed as a foreshadowing of another father giving His son over as a sacrifice for sin. Only in this case the son was sacrificed (no substitute was given as the Son is the substitute).

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And given that, how can anyone trust anything God says? If you have children, and they have a beloved family pet that dies, what do you tell them?

The truth. That their pet died, and death is a result of sin, so Christ died on the cross, and because He was resurrected we can place our faith and trust in His work as a sacrificial attonenment, and thus have no fear of death, knowing that He has overcome it.

"Don't worry, honey, he's going to a better place." You know for a fact there is no "Puppy Heaven" or "Hamster Heaven" or a "Goldfish Heaven" in the bible, so you just lied to protect your child.

I agree there is no mention of animals being resurrected and so to tell children they are for sure in heaven is a lie (maybe they are, but we don't know). So don't tell your children lies. Are you claiming here that all Christians lie to their children about what happens to animals when they die?

How can anyone trust God isn't doing the same with the afterlife?

Please further clarify your line of reasoning here. It seems that you've stated: Christian parents lie to their children about where there pets go when they die, therefore God cannot be trusted about the afterlife. Am I understanding your argument correctly?

Hey, they ignore all those parts they think shopuldn't apply to them.

You mention the OT and then they say it's not valid anymore because it is replaced with the NT.

Then they quote from the 10 commandments and ignore you when you point ot thtat they're in the OT.

What is the purpose of the 10 commandments?

Matthew 5:17 (I think), the bit where Jesus says the law still applies.

Yes it is. Matthew 5:17-20
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

To what law is He referring? The moral law? The ceremonial law? The theocratic law of the nation of Israel?

They don't like the fact that God thinks houses can get leprosy. They also ignore the fact that God doesn't know how to cure leprosy or if he does he's a devious lying sack of shit.

Matthew 8:1-4/Mark 1:40-45/Luke 5:12-16

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I'm not sure if this is the type of thing you want, but Jesus specifically says that unless you are as credulous as a child, you can't go to heaven!

Matthew 18:3

I suppose a theist could turn it around and say that because we refuse to have faith like children, we won't understand, but that's honestly a shitty argument. You could use that to justify belief in Santa Clause.

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In what way is Jesus saying we are to become like children?

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All the many commands to sell all you have, and give to the poor.

Luke 12
32 “Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom. 33 Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. 34 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Luke 14
33 In the same way, those of you who do not give up everything you have cannot be my disciples.

And more. Christians don't actually follow the commands of Jesus, never will.

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