(May 8, 2015 at 7:06 pm)wallym Wrote:(May 8, 2015 at 4:07 am)robvalue Wrote: Wallym: do you have any specific objections to my atheist/theist behaviour thread?
I'm not saying every theist is the same, I'm opening up for discussion trends I have observed. I'm sorry if that's not acceptable to you.
Yes. I would characterize your description of the Theist thinking in that thread as an absurd caricature. Theists I'd say nearly unanimously don't involve God in their street crossing. And the vast majority don't go to the doctors "Just in case."
Maybe someone with a severe mental illness, or maybe one of those snake handler type people might, I guess. But Theists look both ways before they cross the street so they don't get hit by a car. That's it. Anything else you are trying to project onto the thinking is about you, not reality.
There are a lot of theists out there who absolutely thank Jesus for everything from finding their car keys to surviving another day on the planet. These are most ultra-fundamentalist types and, of course, a small minority of the total theist population. However, the idea that theists are actually thinking about their beliefs, that's another thing entirely. You cannot come to a belief in any god by wholly rational means, you cannot think your way into it because there is no rational reason to believe that gods exist in the first place. Therefore, depending on how you define "thinking", I'd argue that, with regard to their beliefs, lots of theists have never thought about them at all.
There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide mankind that cannot be achieved as well or better through secular means.
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