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Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
(January 9, 2012 at 10:19 am)amkerman Wrote: Nice response Norfolk.

if God is verifiable how do we test for God
It depends on where your religious beliefs you learned from Bible or Qu'ran or Koran. One of these books are the crucial source of your religious beliefs and concept of your "god".

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RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
(January 9, 2012 at 10:19 am)amkerman Wrote: if God is verifiable how do we test for God

That's your problem.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
(January 9, 2012 at 10:51 am)Ace Otana Wrote:
(January 9, 2012 at 10:19 am)amkerman Wrote: if God is verifiable how do we test for God

That's your problem.

wait..Amkerman doesnt even know if his god is even verifyable?

He calls us stupid for being atheists...

...then he asks the atheist how to verify his god.

Obvious troll is obvious... can someone PLEASE kick this troll to the curb?
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RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
I thought you were ignoring me rev. Actually I thought ace was too... Anyways, I never said God was verifiable, someone else did. So I asked that person how.

You would thing among all the atheists around here a few of them would have an IQ over 140, but I think you'd be wrong.

The only reason I came here in the first place was intelligent discussion. I have got nothing of the sort. It's like you guys aren't even trying to challenge your own beliefs. Sad. Oh well, at least it's entertaining.
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RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
(January 8, 2012 at 10:26 pm)amkerman Wrote: Hey hoc you know I like the way you think.

If I say the meaning of reality is love, (which is what I believe) Do you have anything for me?
Some Gwynnies? Big Grin

And you got your theology backwards. It's "I am, therefore god." Trying to do it the other way - well, you see what happens. Wink
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RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
Variations on a familiar theme:

"Without God, there would be no basis for morality"
"Without God, there would be no reason to use logic"
"Without God, life is meaningless"

For starters, this is the logical fallacy called Appeal to Consequences

The universe is not under any obligation to conform to what we wish to be true. Even if the above quoted assertions WERE true, they would be non sequiturs to the question of whether or not God exists.

Additionally, this familiar theme follows a familiar pattern:

1. Find a problem that doesn't exist.
2. Offer a vapid God(Verb)It to "solve" the "problem"
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
That is how I arrived at God hoc. I believe I exist, therefore God must exist.
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RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
(January 9, 2012 at 11:52 am)amkerman Wrote: That is how I arrived at God hoc. I believe I exist, therefore God must exist.

Terrible logic.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
Well there are steps in between ace. I have stated them countless times. Remember when I say God you should be hearing "reality".
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RE: Question about meaning and perception of reality from a theist.
(January 9, 2012 at 12:03 pm)amkerman Wrote: Well there are steps in between ace. I have stated them countless times. Remember when I say God you should be hearing "reality".

No, when I hear 'god' I hear 'baseless claim'.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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