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Writers: if you're not Judeo-Christian, chances are you suck.
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RE: Writers: if you're not Judeo-Christian, chances are you suck.
Incidentally, I noticed this paragraph:

Quote:So your protag survives. Big deal. If the Moral framework of her universe is negotiable, what does her survival matter? Other than to her. The survival of the zombies or thieves or flesh eating bacteria might be just as morally sustainable. And if that Moral framework is relative, then her survival really doesn’t matter. I mean, why is it “better” that she and her child survive? On what grounds? And in the end, if there are no Moral Absolutes, your protag and all her great deeds will simply fade into the dust of history like so many other valiant, yet futile, warriors. (Note: Readers hated that The Hunger Games trilogy ended on such a bleak note. However, if there is no Hope or Virtue, then why not end it there?)

This reminds me of a film entitled Das Boot; its plot is simple: In WW2, a German U-boat sets sail and spends weeks dealing with boredom, bad weather, and get ordered on a suicide mission which they survive by random chance. The moment they arrive, the U-boat gets sunk by an Allied Bomb. By the claims that the author of the article makes, this should be a recipe for disaster; you're focusing on a group that is generally considered "the bad guys" by history, and they survive a suicide mission by random chance, only for their efforts to be rendered pointless. But, regardless, after all the hours you've spent with them (from the 2 1/2 hour theatrical cut to the 5-hour director's cut), we feel sad at the loss of life. Even the people at the premiere who cheered the opening caption about how 30,000 German submariners died in the U-boats wound up in tears by the bombing raid at the end. How did it happen? Well, Wolfgang Petersen (director of the movie and writer of the screenplay) and Lothar-Gunther Buchheim (who wrote the book and lived it before writing it down) made sure that you got invested in the characters. When we saw them deteriorating physically and emotionally on the u-boat, we hoped that they would survive. When they managed to survive their suicide mission, we were relieved at their good fortune. When they got sunk by an allied bombing campaign, we wept. And all of this was due to the writers' skill at making characters, and not due to their following a Judeo-Christian worldview.
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#52
RE: Writers: if you're not Judeo-Christian, chances are you suck.
(February 14, 2012 at 8:09 pm)Faith No More Wrote: His argument rests on the idea that any appeal to right and wrong is an appeal to absolute right and wrong [...]

Except for the thorny problem that his argument didn't rest on such a notion. Those who actually read his articles know that he recognized and examined appeals to alternative ethical frameworks, including stories that do not appeal to any ethical framework at all. But he is saying something positive about the Judeo-Christian worldview so nobody needs to waste their time with him.

(February 14, 2012 at 8:10 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: This reminds me of a film entitled Das Boot [...]

By making sure the audience is invested in the characters and their plight, Petersen and Buchheim appeal to the foregone conclusion that human life is intrinsically valuable, an effort made all the more salient by the characters being Germans of WW2.
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)
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#53
RE: Writers: if you're not Judeo-Christian, chances are you suck.
Haha, tell that to Ian McEwan! Atonement is one of the best books I've ever read
~*~Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your behavior does ~*~

~*~Live a good life. If there are Gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are Gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no Gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones - Marcus Aurelius~*~
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