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Archaeology Sticks It Up The Bible's Ass Again
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RE: Archaeology Sticks It Up The Bible's Ass Again
(October 3, 2012 at 12:01 am)Minimalist Wrote:
(October 2, 2012 at 11:55 pm)Polaris Wrote: I stated "theories" implying the theory that the Israelite nation arose from the Sea Peoples.

You really do this sort of thing a lot more than you should.

I never said anything about the "Israelites" arising from the Sea Peoples. The idea is silly. We know where the groups which later became the "Israelites" arose and it was about as far from the sea as one could get and remain in "Palestine."

We also know they weren't slaves in Egypt since you seem to keep forgetting what you started.

Well there were Israelities (or the people that would help to form the minority) likely in Egypt during the late Bronze Age. Whether they were enslaved at one point or another or not enslaved has never been academically proven either way.

Keep on forgetting? The fuck. I'm not the one with fucking ADD.
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RE: Archaeology Sticks It Up The Bible's Ass Again
(October 2, 2012 at 11:58 pm)Justtristo Wrote:
(October 2, 2012 at 11:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The Sea People took out Mycenean Greece, Crete, Cyprus, probably "Troy" ( or whatever the locals called it) the Hittites, Ugarit, and despite the bullshit claims of Ramesses III they damn near took out Egypt and did end 4 centuries of Egyptian domination of Canaan.

They were real enough. Far more real than your "Israelites."

I have a theory that Mycenaean Greeks were a major component of the sea peoples, there are a lot of similarities between the material culture of the Philistines in Canaan and Mycenaean Greece. Although they did assimilate into the surrounding Canaanite culture to a high degree.

Something - probably environmental - caused entire populations to take to the sea as raiders. The Vikings of the 8-11th centuries are the best analogy that comes to me except the Sea Peoples were not a homogenous group.

We know from the writings of some of the people they attacked what they did and to a degree how they did it. But the Sea Peoples themselves wrote nothing and built nothing.

Nonetheless, this chart,
[Image: potterymotif.jpg]

by Israeli archaeologist Amihai Mazar in "Ancient Israel" by Amnon Ben Tor compares Mycenean with Philistine pottery motifs so I doubt that anyone could convincingly dismiss the argument that the Peleset, at least, had a Hellenic background. It is simply way too close, both in style and in time, to be a coincidence.

Quote:Well there were Israelities (or the people that would help to form the minority) likely in Egypt during the late Bronze Age.

When you find evidence to that effect kindly let me....and an entire generation of Egyptologists...in on your little secret.
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