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All Hail the Second Amendment
RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
Assault rifles into stores? I see no assault rifles. I see expensive black plastic toys not all that much unlike dildos fobbed off on peckerwoods with a complex.
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http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/i-am-coming-home

Quote:That's It. I Am Coming Home.
The NRA has made mass killings normal in this country. I'm coming home from years of serving my country overseas to help stop it.

By Lt. Col. Robert Bateman on June 9, 2014
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(June 10, 2014 at 7:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/i-am-coming-home

Quote:That's It. I Am Coming Home.
The NRA has made mass killings normal in this country. I'm coming home from years of serving my country overseas to help stop it.

By Lt. Col. Robert Bateman on June 9, 2014

When I was in school, there were guns but there were no school shootings.

What has changed?
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(June 11, 2014 at 10:08 am)Chas Wrote:
(June 10, 2014 at 7:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/i-am-coming-home

When I was in school, there were guns but there were no school shootings.

What has changed?

That just isn't true, the first high school shooting recorded was in the 18th century and they've been a pretty regular occurrence in the US ever since.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(June 11, 2014 at 10:20 am)Hoopington Wrote:
(June 11, 2014 at 10:08 am)Chas Wrote: When I was in school, there were guns but there were no school shootings.

What has changed?

That just isn't true, the first high school shooting recorded was in the 18th century and they've been a pretty regular occurrence in the US ever since.

Fine - I should have said "hardly any". But regular occurrence? The rate is increasing dramatically.

But it's not about the guns. It's about the crazy.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(June 11, 2014 at 10:08 am)Chas Wrote:
(June 10, 2014 at 7:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/i-am-coming-home

When I was in school, there were guns but there were no school shootings.

What has changed?

One thing that has changed is the news itself. Now you get these frantic coverage sprees where the entire country is fed the same slop for an entire day or two....or until the next "event." A lot of these seem to have a splashy suicide as an end game.

It's a very good question, though. Another thing is the de-institutionalization of the mentally ill. That's a biggie.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(June 11, 2014 at 11:09 am)Chas Wrote:
(June 11, 2014 at 10:20 am)Hoopington Wrote: That just isn't true, the first high school shooting recorded was in the 18th century and they've been a pretty regular occurrence in the US ever since.

Fine - I should have said "hardly any". But regular occurrence? The rate is increasing dramatically.

But it's not about the guns. It's about the crazy.

Is it not about the guns, or is it not just about the guns?

I agree that it isn't just black and white, but the fact is the US has had school shootings since they've had guns, which is, in terms of US history, forever.
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(June 11, 2014 at 11:14 am)Hoopington Wrote:
(June 11, 2014 at 11:09 am)Chas Wrote: Fine - I should have said "hardly any". But regular occurrence? The rate is increasing dramatically.

But it's not about the guns. It's about the crazy.

Is it not about the guns, or is it not just about the guns?

I agree that it isn't just black and white, but the fact is the US has had school shootings since they've had guns, which is, in terms of US history, forever.

Yes, and every other kind of shooting, too.

We need to look at the rate at which these are happening.

I thought to check Wikipedia for stats. While it demonstrates that the rate is increasing, it also lists shootings that aren't actually 'school shootings'.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(June 11, 2014 at 11:20 am)Chas Wrote:
(June 11, 2014 at 11:14 am)Hoopington Wrote: Is it not about the guns, or is it not just about the guns?

I agree that it isn't just black and white, but the fact is the US has had school shootings since they've had guns, which is, in terms of US history, forever.

Yes, and every other kind of shooting, too.

We need to look at the rate at which these are happening.

I thought to check Wikipedia for stats. While it demonstrates that the rate is increasing, it also lists shootings that aren't actually 'school shootings'.

Right.....

So, define a "school shooting" then?
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
(June 11, 2014 at 11:14 am)Hoopington Wrote:
(June 11, 2014 at 11:09 am)Chas Wrote: Fine - I should have said "hardly any". But regular occurrence? The rate is increasing dramatically.

But it's not about the guns. It's about the crazy.

Is it not about the guns, or is it not just about the guns?

I agree that it isn't just black and white, but the fact is the US has had school shootings since they've had guns, which is, in terms of US history, forever.

Yes, it's not black and white. But where will effort yield the most results?

It's mostly not about the guns, it's almost entirely about the crazy.

And the crazy is about a society that does not pay attention to or take care of those most in need.
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