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RE: How to shut up people who are against abortion
May 27, 2013 at 1:39 pm
(This post was last modified: May 27, 2013 at 1:41 pm by Gilgamesh.)
(May 24, 2013 at 6:55 pm)That guy who asked questions Wrote: 4. Gilgamesh, i'm sorry but that just seems fucked up to me. As I've implied, our DNA is what makes us human. It's the only thing that if changed would render us not human. That's why I think it's a human at conception. You're pretty much saying in your argument that it's ok to kill inferior types of humans. Ok, that's not cool, because that gives justification for racism. The racist believes that they are superior because they are a different type of human. I don't think racism is a moral action at all. Also, your argument gives justification for killing born children and babies and pretty much anyone just because they are on a different period of development (or are a different "type"). A human is a human, regardless of developmental stage. The question is "is it moral to kill another human?" I can agree with the conclusion of dependent circumstances but not on the premise that the killed is a different "type" of human. It is okay to kill inferior humans that would only weigh on society and cannot express a desire to live. That does not give justification for racism, unless you think any given race is inferior. I don't.
(May 25, 2013 at 2:31 am)rexbeccarox Wrote: 1. It's not about what makes us humans or people or whatever semantic label you would like to press. It's about whether a woman has control over her own body and whether or not, because of a natural human function, she should be saddled with the potential parasite, if you will, resulting from said function (which, incidentally takes two to participate). Please keep in mind, I'm only using feminine pronouns because men are unable to get pregnant, therefore, unable to have abortions (in case gil is watching). Why are you mentioning a specific sex? Why can't it just be "humans should have control over their own body." Would you, by any chance, be happy if a group of women decided what every other woman in the country can and can't do?
By the way, it's that parasite inside of the woman that anti-abortion people are worried about; not the woman.
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RE: How to shut up people who are against abortion
May 27, 2013 at 2:16 pm
(May 27, 2013 at 1:39 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote: By the way, it's that parasite inside of the woman that anti-abortion people are worried about; not the woman.
Why can't you refer to the "parasite" by it's biological classification?
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RE: How to shut up people who are against abortion
May 27, 2013 at 2:18 pm
Gil, this thread is about abortion, so I'm talking about women. We've already been here. Stop putting words in my mouth or implying I mean anything other than humans have control over their own bodies.
And, I agree. Most people who are against abortion don't give a crap about the woman.
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RE: How to shut up people who are against abortion
May 27, 2013 at 2:21 pm
(May 27, 2013 at 2:18 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: And, I agree. Most people who are against abortion don't give a crap about the woman. Why should they? They see the woman as a potential murderer!
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RE: How to shut up people who are against abortion
May 27, 2013 at 2:22 pm
And most people for abortion don't give a crap about human life (unless it's of a certain age).... Hypocritical if you ask me. Your interpretation may vary.
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RE: How to shut up people who are against abortion
May 27, 2013 at 2:25 pm
(May 27, 2013 at 2:18 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Gil, this thread is about abortion, so I'm talking about women. We've already been here. Stop putting words in my mouth or implying I mean anything other than humans have control over their own bodies. I only asked a question. No implications, brah.
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RE: How to shut up people who are against abortion
May 27, 2013 at 2:34 pm
To answer the OP, I usually use the line "what business is it of yours?
Where it goes from there depends on the answer.
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RE: How to shut up people who are against abortion
May 27, 2013 at 5:59 pm
(This post was last modified: May 27, 2013 at 6:00 pm by smax.)
I notice that all of the anti-abortion advocates have completely ignored the point of the OP's original post.
With that, I guess silence tells us more than words. Christians feel it's okay for god to kill of human beings because he regrets creating them in the first place.
And they call advocates of abortion "hypocrites".
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RE: How to shut up people who are against abortion
May 27, 2013 at 7:08 pm
(May 27, 2013 at 2:18 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Gil, this thread is about abortion, so I'm talking about women. So, if we take abortion as 100% fine and legal, a man should have no say in it? Isn't it his baby too?
(May 27, 2013 at 5:59 pm)smax Wrote: I notice that all of the anti-abortion advocates have completely ignored the point of the OP's original post. I didn't. I specifically called into question his assertion that he could shut up "people who are against abortion" by quoting scripture. Scripture means nothing to me.
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RE: How to shut up people who are against abortion
May 27, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Quote: Isn't it his baby too?
Does that apply to rapists?
What about men who fail to pay child support?
Or what about men who simply fuck anything that moves and don't even know their names?
Grand pronouncements are tempting but the devil is always in the details.
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