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Abiogenesis is impossible
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(April 22, 2015 at 10:54 am)pocaracas Wrote: Should we let them know about that?
Is it safe for them to know that? Won't it create some sort of paradox in their minds and cause them to refuse the whole thing, thus locking themselves in their delusion even further?

The Kirk Manoeuvre is always entertaining.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(April 22, 2015 at 5:59 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(April 22, 2015 at 10:54 am)pocaracas Wrote: Should we let them know about that?
Is it safe for them to know that? Won't it create some sort of paradox in their minds and cause them to refuse the whole thing, thus locking themselves in their delusion even further?

The Kirk Manoeuvre is always entertaining.

hmmm.... two options it seems there are...
Quote: The Kirk Maneuver aka The Inapproproate input Maneuver
(note: Captain Kirk is such a larger than life character that his maneuver has two variations)


Either...
...convince the sentient computer that in order to fulfil its directives it has to commit suicide...
...or...
...slip the tongue to the hot babe that is actually a soulless android/tentacled horror from Andromeda/whatever, and then watch her "newfound emotions" fry her brain. Gets 'em every time.

I'm guessing you want to go with the second, although the first does have some merit to it.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
Given the total lack of opportunity for option 2, even given that the hot babe is a regular Earth lady painted green with bits of rubber on her face, the first one is, sadly, the only game in town for me.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(April 22, 2015 at 6:26 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Given the total lack of opportunity for option 2, even given that the hot babe is a regular Earth lady painted green with bits of rubber on her face, the first one is, sadly, the only game in town for me.
I was going for a metaphorical blue green babe... but ok...
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
All my babes are metaphorical nowadays. The hue is entirely secondary.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
snowtracks Wrote:but of course, there isn’t any paleontology evidence (the claim of ‘future discovery’ only has a limited shelf-life {please not again, that is so lame}).
This is awesome. You try to cover for your ignorance by making it seem as if you're trying to head off a "gaps" argument (which should set off anyone's hypocrite meter immediately) and it takes less than an hour for someone to produce the evidence you thought didn't exist. Too bad you didn't warn us against using 'past discovery.'
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(April 23, 2015 at 11:20 am)Stimbo Wrote: All my babes are metaphorical nowadays. The hue is entirely secondary.

Try tinder.



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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
That's no good - they just keep catching fire.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(April 23, 2015 at 12:52 pm)Tonus Wrote:
snowtracks Wrote:but of course, there isn’t any paleontology evidence (the claim of ‘future discovery’ only has a limited shelf-life {please not again, that is so lame}).
This is awesome.  You try to cover for your ignorance by making it seem as if you're trying to head off a "gaps" argument (which should set off anyone's hypocrite meter immediately) and it takes less than an hour for someone to produce the evidence you thought didn't exist.  Too bad you didn't warn us against using 'past discovery.'

Not to mention that the whole reason he's so derisive of future discoveries is so that he can continue to make huge arguments from ignorance while avoiding the very obvious rebuttal that, just because we don't know something yet, doesn't make his unjustified assertions any more plausible. Rolleyes
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
I think what we have is the argument from ignorance ad nauseam fallacy. It's not just a broken argument, it's a way of life.
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