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what should i do, need help!
#21
RE: what should i do, need help!
(November 15, 2013 at 2:54 pm)leodeo Wrote: is there any religion like me? i feel so outcaste, i never fit in anywhere even with religion.

Sounds to me like you don't have a religion. You have a belief, and that's much better. It means you don't have to carry around all that other dogmatic crap. There are different types of belief represented on this forum. Have a look around, you might find some ideas that click with you. It can help you figure out you what your beliefs are - and what they're not.

Quote:but jia, i guess ill just stop thinking about religion stuff since it makes me more upset- do u guys think that in time if i stop thinking about god and stuff i will stop beliving in him and become a 100% atheist?

In a word - no. You might across arguments and points of view that cause you to question the existence of god and it might flow from there. On the other hand, you may well find your beliefs being strengthened, whether you want it or not Smile

But ignoring it all together will not turn you into an atheist. At least, not in my experience.

Quote:but i will keep beliving in and loving my angel gf as i made a thread about a while ago, she gives me some joy and makes things more bearable for me.

Well just be sure you don't end up creating expectations and standards that no real person can live up to.
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#22
RE: what should i do, need help!
Maybe deism is right for you. You can believe in a Creator, but it doesn't communicate with us or intervene in worldly matters. No one really knows anything about this Creator, but maybe it rewards you for being a good person after you die. Otherwise, you're on your own. The deist God doesn't curse anyone, but it doesn't help anyone either.

It's not a religion, but maybe it's something you'd be comfortable with.

If it's just chicks you're after, you might look into Raelism. They're atheists but they believe Jesus and Buddha were aliens. They're kinda into democracy, sharing, free love and skimpy clothes.
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#23
RE: what should i do, need help!
The single best way of attracting women is to improve yourself. Physically, mentally, learn to play an instrument, get an interesting hobby, take classes at your local community college, take up an art, etc.

Women are genetically attracted to men that are higher status than themselves. High status in this sense does not mean; rich, famous, high prestige job, etc. But refers more to behavioral traits, as in; extroverted, dominant (not in a dickish way), the leader of his group of friends, able to command any social situation, not intimidated by beautiful women, etc.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#24
RE: what should i do, need help!
(November 15, 2013 at 10:40 am)leodeo Wrote: I'm trying my best to keep faith in Atheism but deep down i still believe god exists but unless all the other theists i think he is a dick and gave me a cursed life.

forexample now im on disability and live all alone and all my old friends from highschool have amazing girlfriends and jobs and i dont think things will ever get better for me cuz im 24 and since 2009 they been only getting significantly worse each year, all i wanted in this life was a girlfriend and i know deep down i will never get one and im really really really wanting to just go to a garage with my car and kill myself with carbon monoxide, im so scared to do it, but at the same time i know thats teh only way to end my daily suffering.

i have nightmares, like i wake up several times in night just crying and it sucks.

and i feel like god screws me whenever bad stuff happens, and i try to hold true to atheism and say that science is the only truth in the world and if you cant see something then it doesnt exist, but i just cant stop beliving and thinking god is a dick and real, what should i do?

and before anyone says it, yes i been in therapy and medication for years, and therapists wont ever talk to me about theology or god cuz they say its out of their caliber and refer met o chaplains and chaplains just stuff more bs down my throat about how god loves me but cant make life better cuz we have free will... :S

i begin to wonder if my illness is god given or something that psychology cant help, because no medication seems to help and i been on several and i took em all consistently

and all therapists tell me to do is try to focus on one thing int he moment and take things slow, and I DO - but it doesnt stop my inner pain...

i even tried praying to god and asking what u want to make my pain stop- i tried volunterring more and stuff, but my life is still a goats dick.

1. Read bible and other books
2. Come to an conclusion
3. There you go.

Now you can identify with your name and be something you wish for, which is sweet Wink wish you luck pal Wink
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#25
RE: what should i do, need help!
Thanks for all the advise but I actually been going through this for a while...I jjust can't keep living like this I'm gonna end it all today, I just hope if there is a god that he can understand how much I'm hurting and if there isn't that I can't stop existing
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#26
RE: what should i do, need help!
(November 16, 2013 at 3:53 pm)leodeo Wrote: Thanks for all the advise but I actually been going through this for a while...I jjust can't keep living like this I'm gonna end it all today, I just hope if there is a god that he can understand how much I'm hurting and if there isn't that I can't stop existing

Ok I just saw this like right now.

Dude, I hope you'll still there. Calm down. It feels like shit I get what you're saying, and I probably don't understand how that feels like. But honestly you're very young, you're only 24, you will find a girl who loves you for who you are. You really just need to be patient, you've probably heard this a million times but it's true. Dying isn't going to help make you happier.

Please post back if you're still there, ok?
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#27
RE: what should i do, need help!
(November 15, 2013 at 2:54 pm)leodeo Wrote: Idk what to call myself, i guess im not atheist, but im definetly not christian, even when i thought i was christain i didn't and don't agree with 99% of the stuff in the bible, and it seems to me like christains just choose to love and believe in god because thats what their faith tells them, but im the only oen on the planet who thinks things are pretty messed up in this world Sad

is there any religion like me? i feel so outcaste, i never fit in anywhere even with religion.

and honestly just sayin, u guys are all much friendlier then christain people, they can be such dicks on their forum (maybe following their god?) i made a thread like this a year or so ago and they just said i need more faith and need to stop sinning and stuff... :|

but jia, i guess ill just stop thinking about religion stuff since it makes me more upset- do u guys think that in time if i stop thinking about god and stuff i will stop beliving in him and become a 100% atheist?

but i will keep beliving in and loving my angel gf as i made a thread about a while ago, she gives me some joy and makes things more bearable for me.
Perhaps Deism is for you.

Oh and stop with the desperation of wanting a girlfriend. Be the kind of guy a girl would find attractive without the desperation (very unattractive in my book), the kind who is confident in himself warts and all.

You are very young. Don't get too despondent
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#28
RE: what should i do, need help!
Hey there. Leo, you still around?

Undecided
Pointing around: "Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you're cool, fuck you, I'm out!"
Half Baked

"Let the atheists come to me, and stop keeping them away, because the kingdom of heathens belongs to people like these." -Saint Bacon
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#29
RE: what should i do, need help!
(November 16, 2013 at 3:53 pm)leodeo Wrote: Thanks for all the advise but I actually been going through this for a while...I jjust can't keep living like this I'm gonna end it all today
Dude.... I'm assuming you got a hooker!
Don't scare the residents with that "end it all" talk!

(November 16, 2013 at 3:53 pm)leodeo Wrote: , I just hope if there is a god that he can understand how much I'm hurting and if there isn't that I can't stop existing
You can't stop existing.... not yet, too much life still to come!
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