God is timeless

[Angrboda]

As far as the fish go, I use to be a semi-pro competitive fishermen and it was my business to know the behavior of fish.

GC

Oh well that settles it then! You have completely refuted all my points due to the fact that you've done a bit of fishing. Well done! Splendid!

Old fishermen never die. If you were a semi-pro fisherman, you never were a fisherman.


"semi-pro" - the last verbal refuge of the incompetent.

[Godscreated]

Oh well that settles it then! You have completely refuted all my points due to the fact that you've done a bit of fishing. Well done! Splendid!

Old fishermen never die. If you were a semi-pro fisherman, you never were a fisherman.


"semi-pro" - the last verbal refuge of the incompetent.

As old as I am I'll take you on in a competition any day for any amount.

GC

[Bad Writer]

Again:

[Angrboda]

As old as I am I'll take you on in a competition any day for any amount.

GC

So, in other words, you're taunting a woman with no fingers to beat you in a fishing contest. I just want to be sure I have this right.

You and ronedee must sure whoop a lot of pussy.

[Medi]

"God is timeless" is something Christians spout all the time. Along with "God is both inside and outside time"

What does it even mean? Whenever I've asked for clarification none is given, they just expect you to accept this with no explanation. I'm coming at this with a background in physics.

Time is very difficult to understand and as far as I'm aware no one really does, though plenty of work is being done to establish it. It could well be that time is just an illusion.

I just don't understand what they can possibly mean. Anyone clear it up, or am I thinking about it in too much depth and it's just pseudo-scientific garbage with no meaning at all?

Obviously, on the physics of it, you'll be better informed than me. But the way that I understand 'time', as applicable to humans, is that inherently it confines us to the present moment. The past is already gone, so it can't be changed, the future is in front, so it can't be grasped, all we have, literally, is the present moment to work with.

Presumably, God isn't confined by this restriction. That's all time is really, a restriction of physics that means that one moment leads on to the next. Now, I know that in two seconds I'll write 'this'. You know what I mean? But my power of foretelling isn't exactly long-reaching.

I presume that God's ability to see possibility isn't limited to short distances.

Though, really, it's hard to answer your question with scientific logic. From a spiritual point of view, though, I think this 'eternal' concept of God explains that there is this perpetual existence about the universe. That even when we're dead, things continue. Perhaps it's just a way of rationalizing that, or perhaps there is an element of God being 'never made, never created, never formed, with no 'beginning' or 'end' that can be conceptualized in the context of time.

I mean, if 'time' weren't to exist, what would take it's place?

I suppose I'm throwing up more questions than answers. Honestly, as a person who very much believes that there is 'God' (the who, what and when, I think is subjective to the world we live in), I can't entirely answer your question. It is fascinating to think about though.

[Angrboda]

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"God is timeless" is something Christians spout all the time. Along with "God is both inside and outside time"

What does it even mean? Whenever I've asked for clarification none is given, they just expect you to accept this with no explanation. I'm coming at this with a background in physics.

Time is very difficult to understand and as far as I'm aware no one really does, though plenty of work is being done to establish it. It could well be that time is just an illusion.

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I just don't understand what they can possibly mean. Anyone clear it up, or am I thinking about it in too much depth and it's just pseudo-scientific garbage with no meaning at all?

....That's all time is really, a restriction of physics that means that one moment leads on to the next....

Which one of your many asses did you pull this from?

[Bob Kelso]

"God is timeless."
"Who can know the mind of God?"
"God works in mysterious ways."
"All in God's time."
"It was God's will."

All these things and more are useless phrases bandied about as actual answers to life's issues.

As far as the physics/philosophical side of the "timelessness" of the Judeo/Christian god I am admittedly ignorant and unable to argue those positions. Though I personally find it laughable to watch apologists perform mental masturbations and contortions to try and explain them.

[Medi]

....That's all time is really, a restriction of physics that means that one moment leads on to the next....

Which one of your many asses did you pull this from?

Your mother's.

Seriously though, Einstein, I'm intrigued to hear your balanced counter-argument.

[Angrboda]

Which one of your many asses did you pull this from?

Your mother's.

Seriously though, Einstein, I'm intrigued to hear your balanced counter-argument.

Counter-argument to a bare assertion? Not how it works, fuckwad.

Btw, my mother is dead 7 years, you sick fuck.

[Medi]

Your mother's.

Seriously though, Einstein, I'm intrigued to hear your balanced counter-argument.

Counter-argument to a bare assertion? Not how it works, fuckwad.

Btw, my mother is dead 7 years, you sick fuck.

Hey don't swing your sword if you aren't prepared to get one swung back at you. Sorry about your mom.

You tell me, can humans grab on to the future? Can humans change the past?

No.

Therefore, does time restrict humans to the present moment (ie, we can't travel back or forwards)?

Yes.

Do we stay still in one particular present moment in time (ie, does time 'stop'?), or does each moment lead to another moment?

The latter.

Therefore,

Time is a restriction on humans, (we are always physically in the present moment, not in a past moment, or a future moment). It is also a concept in physics.

Was that a bare assertion?