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The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?

Poll: Do you think the question "can something come from nothing" is a problem for atheism?
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The question is meaningless
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The question is meaningful, and No
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The question is meaningful, and Yes
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The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
John V Offline
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RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 3, 2014 at 5:04 pm
(April 3, 2014 at 5:02 pm)tor Wrote: Since alpha saying that nothing cannot exist I wonder how did god create universe from nothing. Or did he not create universe from nothing?
Seems like a very relevant question to the something coming from nothing.
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RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 3, 2014 at 5:06 pm
Nice way of avoiding the question of something coming from nothing Big Grin
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The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 3, 2014 at 5:09 pm (This post was last modified: April 3, 2014 at 5:10 pm by Rampant.A.I..)
(April 3, 2014 at 5:06 pm)tor Wrote: Nice way of avoiding the question of something coming from nothing Big Grin

Like I said. He can't answer, so he plugs his ears and goes "LA LA LA LA LA".

Who joins a debate forum and blocks people who ask questions or raise objections?
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RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 3, 2014 at 5:12 pm
(April 3, 2014 at 5:04 pm)Chas Wrote:
(April 3, 2014 at 3:08 pm)max-greece Wrote: Actually, specifically, the photon did not come from an existing electron. The electron lost nothing in the production of the photon.

The photon is the loss of energy of the electron.

Which brings us back to my original point that a photon is not just energy.
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RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 3, 2014 at 5:14 pm (This post was last modified: April 3, 2014 at 5:16 pm by John V.)
(April 3, 2014 at 5:09 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Like I said. He can't answer, so he plugs his ears and goes "LA LA LA LA LA".

Who joins a debate forum and blocks people who ask questions or raise objections?
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(April 3, 2014 at 5:12 pm)max-greece Wrote:
(April 3, 2014 at 5:04 pm)Chas Wrote: The photon is the loss of energy of the electron.

Which brings us back to my original point that a photon is not just energy.
I don't keep up on all the QM stuff, but it's my understanding that matter and energy aren't two distinct things anymore, and so I don't see your point.
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RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 3, 2014 at 5:16 pm
(April 3, 2014 at 5:12 pm)max-greece Wrote:
(April 3, 2014 at 5:04 pm)Chas Wrote: The photon is the loss of energy of the electron.

Which brings us back to my original point that a photon is not just energy.

A photon has zero rest mass, so it's a force carrier - it's just energy.
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RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 3, 2014 at 5:21 pm
(April 3, 2014 at 5:16 pm)Chas Wrote:
(April 3, 2014 at 5:12 pm)max-greece Wrote: Which brings us back to my original point that a photon is not just energy.

A photon has zero rest mass, so it's a force carrier - it's just energy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%...le_duality
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RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 3, 2014 at 5:21 pm
(April 3, 2014 at 5:06 pm)tor Wrote: Nice way of avoiding the question of something coming from nothing Big Grin

He's got a point - his belief in god isn't the topic of this thread, and you guys brought it up, not him.

But, hey, if you guys want to threadjack this thread and make it about DidGodDoIt? knock yourselves out.

While you're at it, you might note that this is the Philosophy subforum, not Religion.
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The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 3, 2014 at 5:24 pm
(April 3, 2014 at 5:14 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(April 3, 2014 at 5:09 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Like I said. He can't answer, so he plugs his ears and goes "LA LA LA LA LA".

Who joins a debate forum and blocks people who ask questions or raise objections?
I warned you. Bye-bye!
(April 3, 2014 at 5:12 pm)max-greece Wrote: Which brings us back to my original point that a photon is not just energy.
I don't keep up on all the QM stuff, but it's my understanding that matter and energy aren't two distinct things anymore, and so I don't see your point.

Warned for asking questions on a debate forum. WOW, this guy is truly nuts!
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RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
April 3, 2014 at 5:36 pm
Can something come from nothing? Yes. The fact we are here proves that.
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