Christian humility

[Jackalope]

I always here Christians claim they are humble, especially the the Christians here,

Quote me.

I gotta say, I don't ever recall you claiming to be humble. Nor do I think you've ever been accused of it.

[The Valkyrie]

I've encountered a few but not many, especially among the Abrahamic religions. You're more likely to encounter humble people among the Eastern religions and philosophies.

But then, I think most people have an ego they like to stroke at times, especially if they can't get anyone else to stroke it for them.

Everyone likes to feel special now and again.

[John V]

Quote me.

I gotta say, I don't ever recall you claiming to be humble. Nor do I think you've ever been accused of it.

Until this thread, as I am a Christian here.

[Lemonvariable72]

I gotta say, I don't ever recall you claiming to be humble. Nor do I think you've ever been accused of it.

Until this thread, as I am a Christian here.

Did you actually read my op?

[John V]

Did you reading the damn post? It was about how most of the christians are arrogant as shit, yourself included.

Did you read the part of the damn post which I quoted? It claimed that Christians, particularly Christians here, CLAIM to be humble. I don't. You can call me arrogant, but don't claim I'm hypocritical about it.

Let's see how many Christian here you can quote as claiming to be humble.

[Lemonvariable72]

Did you reading the damn post? It was about how most of the christians are arrogant as shit, yourself included.

Did you read the part of the damn post which I quoted? It claimed that Christians, particularly Christians here, CLAIM to be humble. I don't. You can call me arrogant, but don't claim I'm hypocritical about it.

Let's see how many Christian here you can quote as claiming to be humble.

Never said you claimed to be humble or that all Christians here do. Want me to quote a Christian?

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Did you reading the damn post? It was about how most of the christians are arrogant as shit, yourself included.

Did you read the part of the damn post which I quoted? It claimed that Christians, particularly Christians here, CLAIM to be humble. I don't. You can call me arrogant, but don't claim I'm hypocritical about it.

Let's see how many Christian here you can quote as claiming to be humble.

Here is the first one, from lek, claiming to be as christlike as he can be (humility and all)

I follow the teachings of Jesus. He was brought up as a Jew and was circumcised according to the Jewish law, but he never commanded that we be circumcised. In fact, the main reason that he was crucified was that he upset the Jewish establishment by teaching the people that they didn't have to follow the provisions of the old testament law. He broke the law at times such as healing on the Sabbath. I don't know if he ate pork, but he drank wine at the last supper, though there's no reports of him getting drunk at any time.

I see this as claiming to be humble seeing as how it was one of jesus's central teachings.

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Here is another from godschild

Everyone here who professes to be non believers has rejected salvation out of self interest. Salvation comes from humbling yourself to admit you are a sinner who needs Christ and the salvation He gives. it's been a hard choice for many here, some have given up what they had received. Earlier you said salvation was a hard thing, now you're saying it doesn't seem to be much of a sacrifice, you need to come to some kind of agreement with yourself.

[John V]

Never said you claimed to be humble or that all Christians here do.

Here's what you said: "I always here Christians claim they are humble, especially the the Christians here..."

Seems like a claim that the vast majority of Christians here have made frequent claims of humility.

Here is the first one, from lek, claiming to be as christlike as he can be (humility and all)

I follow the teachings of Jesus. He was brought up as a Jew and was circumcised according to the Jewish law, but he never commanded that we be circumcised. In fact, the main reason that he was crucified was that he upset the Jewish establishment by teaching the people that they didn't have to follow the provisions of the old testament law. He broke the law at times such as healing on the Sabbath. I don't know if he ate pork, but he drank wine at the last supper, though there's no reports of him getting drunk at any time.

I see this as claiming to be humble seeing as how it was one of jesus's central teachings.

He's not pointing out humility by noting that Jesus was crucified for upsetting the Jewish establishment now, is he?

Here is another from godschild

Everyone here who professes to be non believers has rejected salvation out of self interest. Salvation comes from humbling yourself to admit you are a sinner who needs Christ and the salvation He gives. it's been a hard choice for many here, some have given up what they had received. Earlier you said salvation was a hard thing, now you're saying it doesn't seem to be much of a sacrifice, you need to come to some kind of agreement with yourself.

OK, that's one, but specifically regarding admission of sin.

Underwhelming.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Think about it. Religionists in general have the mental perversion that the creator of the universe has singled them out for special notice, special treatment, special reward. This automatically puts those outside the group in the category of 'not quite as good as us'. If others WERE good enough, God would include them for special services.

I think you're generalizing from a rather narrow subset of all religions. In general, people always believe they're superior to people who are different. You can see this in atheists on this very forum. While some religions encourage this kind of behavior, I think it's a hasty generalization to say that they all do.

First of all, I did not say that all religions do so - I specifically said 'Religionists in general...'.

Secondly, I agree completely with your point that people, irrespective of religion, view outsiders as inferior. No argument at all. But this particular thread was regarding Christian lack of humility, and by inference, Christian pride. Pardon me for mentioning religion in a thread about religion. Won't happen again.

Lastly, I did not say that religions encourage this particular outlook: I said (or at least implied) that it is a behavior of religionists.

Thanks for your careful reading of what I posted. We must do this again sometime.

Boru

[BlackSwordsman]

I always here Christians claim they are humble, especially the the Christians here, but yet I have rarely if ever seen most of them carry themselves in a humble manner in debates and discussions here. A classic example is one member that prayed for half the forum to catch aids so that we be like him
I constantly see Christians that are so chalked full of haughtness and arrogance. I have yet to see one admit to being wrong on a issue and constantly see them use the same arguments again and again, even after they have been shown how these arguments are wrong.
Furthermore many used dishonest tactics such as quote mining sources or in some cases using source that have been shown to be lying. Some of them also perpetuate this myth that if you dont use "bad" words your not being rude, while they make condescending posts about how they are better because they have christ. /rant

In church one day

Christian Priest: We as christians must be humble *insert verse*

*Door smashes open*

*people turn an stare*

Me: TROLL IN THE DUNGEON!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lek]

Here is the first one, from lek, claiming to be as christlike as he can be (humility and all)

I follow the teachings of Jesus. He was brought up as a Jew and was circumcised according to the Jewish law, but he never commanded that we be circumcised. In fact, the main reason that he was crucified was that he upset the Jewish establishment by teaching the people that they didn't have to follow the provisions of the old testament law. He broke the law at times such as healing on the Sabbath. I don't know if he ate pork, but he drank wine at the last supper, though there's no reports of him getting drunk at any time.

I'm totally blown away that you think that I'm trying to make a statement of my humility here. I don't remember exactly what post I was answering, but I think he said that if I am a christian that I should be circumcised because Jesus was. I was saying that I followed his teachings and he didn't command that christians be circumcised. He also mentioned eating pork and consuming alcohol. I do try to be humble, but that isn't what I was talking about here. That's the problem when you take quotes out of context.