Christian humility

[John V]

You were salying that you follow the that you followed the teachings of christ. The most central of which is humility.

Can you support this?

I did a search on the NKJV for humble/humility in the gospels and got 4 verses.

Jesus said that the greatest commandment is to love god. The second greatest is to love your neighbor. A search on love gave 67 hits.

Humility is taught, but it's not Jesus' primary teaching.

[Lemonvariable72]

Religion has always been a way for people to feel special. Christians don't want to believe in evolution because they don't want to feel as though they once walked close to the ground like "wild animals". They used to think they were the center of the galaxy - why? - because God thought they were special and he put them there.
Even the concept of Hell is a product of arrogance. The idea that "if you aren't like me, then you will surely suffer" totally lacks humility.
Throughout the Bible, God destroys entire civilizations because they wronged the Christian people.

Saying all of that to say this...I totally agree with you!

You've said nothing, everything you've said is wrong, start with this one, name one civilization the scriptures say was destroyed because it wronged Christians?

GC

How about the jews? Or the north American natives and the "assimilation" attempts. Of course those aren't in the bible, this would require you to read more then one book. Of course there are half a dozen civilizations god destroys in the old testament because he basically doesn't like them.

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You were salying that you follow the that you followed the teachings of christ. The most central of which is humility.

Can you support this?

I did a search on the NKJV for humble/humility in the gospels and got 4 verses.

Jesus said that the greatest commandment is to love god. The second greatest is to love your neighbor. A search on love gave 67 hits.

Humility is taught, but it's not Jesus' primary teaching.

The parable of turn the other cheek for one. Also the story of Jesus sweating blood before he goes to the cross. Or where he asks peter to put the sword down and to not risk himself on his account. Remember the parable of the samitiritan? What did that man do that made him better then a Pharisee?

[LastPoet]

I think one problem is that we loosely define humility in a person. Is a "humble person" someone who always lowers himself below others?

My grandpa used to say: "the more you lower yourself the more your ass is exposed"

Hey, if christians want to play the humble card, no problem by me, it will be easier to put a proverbial foot in the ass for their silly beliefs.

[Rampant.A.I.]

:-/ The belief that God loves everyone should in fact support the virtue of humility; everyone is put on the same level.

:dodgy: An insincere follower of Christ is usually more dangerous than the average pagan.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

An insincere follower of Christ is usually more dangerous than the average pagan.

Bound to be, since pagans pose no particular danger.

That being said, I think what is far more dangerous than an insincere follower of Christ is a sincere one.

Boru

[Godscreated]

You've said nothing, everything you've said is wrong, start with this one, name one civilization the scriptures say was destroyed because it wronged Christians?

GC

The Amalekites.

*Drops mic.*

Try again, you are wrong, not surprising though.

GC

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Actually, the Amalekites were destroyed because they wronged Jews, not Christians.

Boru

I know, but it's the same god. It's not as if GC can pretend that his own fiction isn't rife with divinely inspired genocides.

Excuses, excuses, excuses you're never wrong.

GC

[Rampant.A.I.]

The Amalekites.

*Drops mic.*

Try again, you are wrong, not surprising though.

GC

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I know, but it's the same god. It's not as if GC can pretend that his own fiction isn't rife with divinely inspired genocides.

Excuses, excuses, excuses you're never wrong.

GC

It's almost as if you've never read your own posts.

[Last Things]

I always here Christians claim they are humble, especially the the Christians here, but yet I have rarely if ever seen most of them carry themselves in a humble manner in debates and discussions here. A classic example is one member that prayed for half the forum to catch aids so that we be like him
I constantly see Christians that are so chalked full of haughtness and arrogance. I have yet to see one admit to being wrong on a issue and constantly see them use the same arguments again and again, even after they have been shown how these arguments are wrong.
Furthermore many used dishonest tactics such as quote mining sources or in some cases using source that have been shown to be lying. Some of them also perpetuate this myth that if you dont use "bad" words your not being rude, while they make condescending posts about how they are better because they have christ. /rant

I don't think this has anything to do with religion, but fanaticism.

Fanatics hold onto a simplistic world view and they are incredibly insecure. When it is challenged, they resort to rudeness, threats, and insults. It does not matter if a person is religious or not.

Non-religious can resort to insults, religious can resort to threats of hell and the like. I have encountered it with fundamentalist Christians who will ignore all appeals to reason that I am just going to hell for not sharing their view. Non-religious, if they are fanatics, will tell me I am stupid for believing in a bearded man that lives in the clouds and that my faith is nothing more than fairy tales.

[Zidneya]

Religion has always been a way for people to feel special. Christians don't want to believe in evolution because they don't want to feel as though they once walked close to the ground like "wild animals". They used to think they were the center of the galaxy - why? - because God thought they were special and he put them there.
Even the concept of Hell is a product of arrogance. The idea that "if you aren't like me, then you will surely suffer" totally lacks humility.
Throughout the Bible, God destroys entire civilizations because they wronged the Christian people.

Saying all of that to say this...I totally agree with you!

You've said nothing, everything you've said is wrong, start with this one, name one civilization the scriptures say was destroyed because it wronged Christians?

GC

REALLY? Everything he said it’s wrong? Everything? Mmm lets see.

Religion has always been a way for people to feel special.

God gives Abraham and his descendants all of the land of Canaan forever. This promise is still used to justify the unending battles over the land in the Middle East.

But against any of the children of Israel shall not a dog move his tongue, against man or beast: that ye may know how that the LORD doth put a difference between the Egyptians and Israel. Exodus 11:7

Christians don't want to believe in evolution because they don't want to feel as though they once walked close to the ground like "wild animals".

It seem to me that in that video theres a Christian that don’t want to believe in evolution because he don't want to think they once walked close to the ground like a"wild animal".

They used to think they were the center of the galaxy - why? - because God thought they were special and he put them there.

And God said, Let us make man in our image(Ohh I should had added this to the evolution statement Ohh well never mind), after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Genesis 1:26

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 1:28

Even the concept of Hell is a product of arrogance. The idea that "if you aren't like me, then you will surely suffer"

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Thousands of innocent women have suffered excruciating deaths because of this verse. Exodus22:18
Do not allow others to worship a different god. Conquer them and destroy their religious property. Exodus 23:24
Stay away from those who worship a different god. Exodus 23:32
And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. Exodus 32:33
Hear, O earth: behold, I will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not hearkened unto my words, nor to my law, but rejected it. Jeremiah 6:19
Things may get rough for Christians, but it will really be hell for nonbelievers. 1 Peter 4:17-18

totally lacks humility.

Jesus is the only way to heaven. All other religions lead to hell. John 14:6

Throughout the Bible, God destroys entire civilizations because they wronged the Christian people

Now this statement it’s partially flawd because you’re right God hasn’t destroyed anyone because it wronged Christians.

But god indeed has destroys entire civilizations because they wronged him, or his favorites.(But none of them where christians)

http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.mx/2...bible.html

And it surely the bible promotes that kind of thinking.

Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn't the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. Mathew 5:17

Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn't care for his preaching. Mathew 11:20-24

Did you really thought that everyone will agreed with your Christian statement and no one will question it in a atheist forum?

AN ATHEIST FORUM?

And I thought that the egalitarianism talkers that registered at Stormfront were naive.

Admit it I nailed you. Deal within it. And have a good day.

[Godscreated]

You've said nothing, everything you've said is wrong, start with this one, name one civilization the scriptures say was destroyed because it wronged Christians?

GC

REALLY? Everything he said it’s wrong? Everything? Mmm lets see.

Religion has always been a way for people to feel special.

God gives Abraham and his descendants all of the land of Canaan forever. This promise is still used to justify the unending battles over the land in the Middle East.

But against any of the children of Israel shall not a dog move his tongue, against man or beast: that ye may know how that the LORD doth put a difference between the Egyptians and Israel. Exodus 11:7

Okay, I will say some religions may make people feel special and it's true the Israelites did, however Christianity is not a feel good religion, Christians have their lives through grace (unmerited love), because a high price was payed for us, we are to be a grateful people, not feeling we're special. Being saved by grace should be a humbling experience.

Christians don't want to believe in evolution because they don't want to feel as though they once walked close to the ground like "wild animals".

It seem to me that in that video theres a Christian that don’t want to believe in evolution because he don't want to think they once walked close to the ground like a"wild animal".

One man or a small group of Christians does not make up the whole of Christianity. Most Christians object to evolution because it goes against what God has told us, simple really. We do dislike evolution being taught to our children, which tries to convince them they are not a creation of God. We do not feel like we walked close to the ground, we reject that because we understand we were and are created.

They used to think they were the center of the galaxy - why? - because God thought they were special and he put them there.

And God said, Let us make man in our image(Ohh I should had added this to the evolution statement Ohh well never mind), after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Genesis 1:26

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 1:28

How do the verses you used have anything to do with the center of the universe, the scriptures do not say our planet is the center of the universe, and at one time almost everyone thought this planet was a the center, not just Christians.

Even the concept of Hell is a product of arrogance. The idea that "if you aren't like me, then you will surely suffer"

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Thousands of innocent women have suffered excruciating deaths because of this verse. Exodus22:18
Do not allow others to worship a different god. Conquer them and destroy their religious property. Exodus 23:24
Stay away from those who worship a different god. Exodus 23:32
And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. Exodus 32:33
Hear, O earth: behold, I will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not hearkened unto my words, nor to my law, but rejected it. Jeremiah 6:19
Things may get rough for Christians, but it will really be hell for nonbelievers. 1 Peter 4:17-18

There's no arrogance in those verses, God has made it very plain if one doesn't accept Christ as Lord and Savior they will spend eternity in hell. No arrogance, just a fact of how things will be because God's plan was set up to reward and punish through His justice.

totally lacks humility.

Jesus is the only way to heaven. All other religions lead to hell. John 14:6

One must humble themselves and admit to being a sinner who needs salvation from that sin, Christianity is base on being humble. Christians can't help that God set up His plan the way He did, it's His creation and plan, we accept it as He has ask.

Throughout the Bible, God destroys entire civilizations because they wronged the Christian people

Now this statement it’s partially flawd because you’re right God hasn’t destroyed anyone because it wronged Christians.

Let's say, completely wrong not partially flawed, let's call it like it is, unintelligent.

But god indeed has destroys entire civilizations because they wronged him, or his favorites.(But none of them where christians)

And it surely the bible promotes that kind of thinking.

No it doesn't, you have no clue why God told the Israelites to destroy other people who worshiped stone, wood, metal and clay gods, that was just for them not Christians.

Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn't the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. Mathew 5:17

Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn't care for his preaching. Mathew 11:20-24

Jesus strongly disapproves of cruelty against others, why did you not show those verses, cherry picking one of your favorite activities.
Jesus is the finial judge against man and his sinful ways, it's His right through justice to condemn those who reject Him.

Did you really thought that everyone will agreed with your Christian statement and no one will question it in a atheist forum?

AN ATHEIST FORUM?

I've been here four years, there is lots of disagreement with what I've stated, do you think you're the first to try and discredit what I believe, you certainly not the first to fail, but fail you have. I came here to be question so that I could strengthen my understanding of my God and His plan.

And I thought that the egalitarianism talkers that registered at Stormfront were naive.

Admit it I nailed you. Deal within it. And have a good day.

You nailed nothing, you've much to learn little one, maybe we can have another go at it when you learn more, have a good weekend, see you next week.

GC