Christian humility

[Lemonvariable72]

Here is the first one, from lek, claiming to be as christlike as he can be (humility and all)

I'm totally blown away that you think that I'm trying to make a statement of my humility here. I don't remember exactly what post I was answering, but I think he said that if I am a christian that I should be circumcised because Jesus was. I was saying that I followed his teachings and he didn't command that christians be circumcised. He also mentioned eating pork and consuming alcohol. I do try to be humble, but that isn't what I was talking about here. That's the problem when you take quotes out of context.

You were salying that you follow the that you followed the teachings of christ. The most central of which is humility.

[dfeye]

Religion has always been a way for people to feel special. Christians don't want to believe in evolution because they don't want to feel as though they once walked close to the ground like "wild animals". They used to think they were the center of the galaxy - why? - because God thought they were special and he put them there.
Even the concept of Hell is a product of arrogance. The idea that "if you aren't like me, then you will surely suffer" totally lacks humility.
Throughout the Bible, God destroys entire civilizations because they wronged the Christian people.

Saying all of that to say this...I totally agree with you!

[Godscreated]

Religion has always been a way for people to feel special. Christians don't want to believe in evolution because they don't want to feel as though they once walked close to the ground like "wild animals". They used to think they were the center of the galaxy - why? - because God thought they were special and he put them there.
Even the concept of Hell is a product of arrogance. The idea that "if you aren't like me, then you will surely suffer" totally lacks humility.
Throughout the Bible, God destroys entire civilizations because they wronged the Christian people.

Saying all of that to say this...I totally agree with you!

You've said nothing, everything you've said is wrong, start with this one, name one civilization the scriptures say was destroyed because it wronged Christians?

GC

[Esquilax]

You've said nothing, everything you've said is wrong, start with this one, name one civilization the scriptures say was destroyed because it wronged Christians?

GC

The Amalekites.

*Drops mic.*

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

You've said nothing, everything you've said is wrong, start with this one, name one civilization the scriptures say was destroyed because it wronged Christians?

GC

The Amalekites.

*Drops mic.*

Actually, the Amalekites were destroyed because they wronged Jews, not Christians.

Boru

[Esquilax]

The Amalekites.

*Drops mic.*

Actually, the Amalekites were destroyed because they wronged Jews, not Christians.

Boru

I know, but it's the same god. It's not as if GC can pretend that his own fiction isn't rife with divinely inspired genocides.

[Buzz]

Think about it. Religionists in general have the mental perversion that the creator of the universe has singled them out for special notice, special treatment, special reward. This automatically puts those outside the group in the category of 'not quite as good as us'. If others WERE good enough, God would include them for special services.

Religionists can yap all they want to about how 'God loves everyone' and 'We all worship the same God' blah blah blah, but they KNOW they're just a wee bit better than everyone else.

Boru

Your statement is of course addressing people of all religions, but since Lemonvariable72 was referring to Christians in general then my reply will be within that context.


Christianity teaches that the creator of the universe has singled out everyone on Earth (not just the ones who worship the said creator) for a particular purpose.
Psalms 139:13-16
Jeremiah 1:5




Christianity advocates humility as a necessity for salvation, so Christians who harbor this mindset:

This automatically puts those outside the group in the category of 'not quite as good as us'. If others WERE good enough, God would include them for special services.

or display this behavior:

I constantly see Christians that are so chalked full of haughtiness and arrogance.

Some of them also perpetuate this myth that if you dont use "bad" words you're not being rude, while they make condescending posts about how they are better because they have christ.

are not displaying proper Christ-like conduct.




The belief that God loves everyone should in fact support the virtue of humility; everyone is put on the same level.

An insincere follower of Christ is usually more dangerous than the average pagan.

[Esquilax]

The belief that God loves everyone should in fact support the virtue of humility; everyone is put on the same level.

God doesn't love everyone equally though, he loves the Israelites. Jesus himself once said that everyone not of his chosen tribe are like dogs, and he refuses to show off his miracles to them. That's not very loving.

[Neo-Scholastic]

I would comment on the OP but it's completely beneath me ;-)

[Tonus]

I always here Christians claim they are humble, especially the the Christians here, but yet I have rarely if ever seen most of them carry themselves in a humble manner in debates and discussions here.

Most of them avoid foul language and direct insults, sometimes in the face of some pretty harsh responses, and that could be considered a form of humility. Personally, I have no problem with them taking the gloves off and firing right back. It makes me feel as if I'm not the only obnoxious prick in the room. It's also the more human response, IMO.

I think one problem is that we loosely define humility in a person. Is a "humble person" someone who always lowers himself below others? Because that sounds more like a pushover than a humble person. I think that if you are generally humble around others but unwilling to take shit from someone who doesn't deserve your respect, that doesn't mean you are not a humble person. It just means you aren't a doormat.