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An unorthodox belief in God.
RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
(June 6, 2014 at 2:28 pm)mickiel Wrote: If goddidnotdoithenwhodidit?
Odin.
There. We're done now.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
(June 6, 2014 at 2:32 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(June 6, 2014 at 2:30 pm)mickiel Wrote: I been demonstrating it for 12 pages now, wonder why you can't see it?

No you haven't.

You've been using just about every logical fallacy there is.

And I don't think yoy even know what the 'argument from ignorance' fallacy is. Which is your main go to argument.



Man, I have not even got started; I been doing this for years. I got so many arguments, even I can't count them. I can just use literally every response you or anyone writes to me a pull a proof of god out of it. In example, just borrowing some of you're terms;

Logic is a proof of god;
Fallacy is a proof of god;
argument is a proof of god
ignorance is a proof of god

I can use any of those terms and prove god exist.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
(June 6, 2014 at 2:28 pm)mickiel Wrote: If goddidnotdoithenwhodidit?

That's not even the correct question to ask.

A correctly formed question would be something like, "if God didn't do it what did?"

By asking 'who' you are already limiting your possibilities and prejudicing your answer to a 'who', when the actual answer may be a 'what'.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
(June 6, 2014 at 2:37 pm)LostLocke Wrote:
(June 6, 2014 at 2:28 pm)mickiel Wrote: If goddidnotdoithenwhodidit?
Odin.
There. We're done now.



Oh noooo; were just getting started; no running off now! I'm not going to hurt you.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
(June 6, 2014 at 2:40 pm)mickiel Wrote: Logic is a proof of Odin;
Fallacy is a proof of Odin;
argument is a proof of Odin
ignorance is a proof of Odin

I can use any of those terms and prove Odin exist.
Fixed for ya Great
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An unorthodox belief in God.
(June 6, 2014 at 1:28 pm)mickiel Wrote:
(June 6, 2014 at 1:08 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: And which scriptures would those be, Mickiel?

You see, you are making a lot of bald assertions here. When you make a claim, how about providing some supporting evidence for that claim? That's sort of the way rational discussions work. Any time you say things like "That's one more for god" without backing anything up, you are simply making yourself to be a fool.


There are many scriptures, but I did not intend on using the bible; why do that here? Anyway one is in psalms 104:1-2 it says god clothed himself with honour and majesty, and gave himself light, or covered himself; which means he created those parts of himself. If he already had it before, what need would he have to give it to himself again? So this scripture, and others like it reveal that god actually created parts of himself.

And I am giving the evidence that I have as I go; that's all I can do. If others don't view it as evidence, what can I do?

(June 6, 2014 at 1:08 pm)Chas Wrote: Physics and chemistry.


What selected physics and chemistry? To avoid infinite regression I say God began it all.

(June 6, 2014 at 1:10 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Why do you believe scriptures are reliable concerning any supernatural god claim?



Because the bible is a proven historical book, and biblical archaeology is yet another proof of god.


"To you"? Who the fuck are you?

You see, You are of no importance whatsoever, even less so your perception. So present evidence for your conjecture, and propose a practicable way by which your conjecture can be verified or refuted, that way it shows at least there is some evidence you have thought about how to eliminate self dilusion and wishthinking from your perceptions.

Do this and what you say may be worth a glance or two. Keep saying what things seem to you, and exhibit no evidence you've done anything to separate mental masturbation from honest proposal, you can go home right now and now waste any more of anyone else's time.

Why are you wasting your time reading what I have to say if I am of no importance?

Infinite regression is a philosophical non-issue.

Name one problem caused by potential infinite regression that is not philosophically or epistemically solvable.

Even assuming an infinite chain of events up until this point, nothing would change.

In fact, the chain of events from before the beginning of time to modern day is, by definition, infinite.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
(June 6, 2014 at 2:40 pm)mickiel Wrote: Man, I have not even got started; I been doing this for years. I got so many arguments, even I can't count them. I can just use literally every response you or anyone writes to me a pull a proof of god out of it. In example, just borrowing some of you're terms;

Logic is a proof of god;
Fallacy is a proof of god;
argument is a proof of god
ignorance is a proof of god

I can use any of those terms and prove god exist.

There's already 13 pages to this thread.

When are you going to start?

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
(June 6, 2014 at 1:58 pm)mickiel Wrote: I think the fossil record is evidence that god created humans as humans and apes as apes, there was no slow transition period;
http://www.whybelieveingod.net/thefossilrecord.htm
Some X-tians work very hard to sustain the gap, so they can continue to cling to the god of the gaps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tra..._evolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hum...on_fossils

http://listverse.com/2009/01/05/top-10-s...odern-man/

http://anthro.palomar.edu/homo/homo_1.htm

http://listverse.com/2013/03/18/10-trans...evolution/

http://biologos.org/uploads/static-conte...gure_4.jpg
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
Verily, there is genius amongst us.
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
(June 6, 2014 at 2:34 pm)mickiel Wrote: he once said " I am what I am"...

I'm pretty sure that was Popeye, not god.
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