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RE: God Buggerers Should Leave The Heavy Thinking
January 2, 2015 at 3:10 pm
They don't understand that it doesn't matter how unlikely something is. How many requirements must be met in order for something to happen. If it can happen, it will happen, given enough time. Not that we have all of them convinced that the universe has been around for more than 6,000 years or so.
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RE: God Buggerers Should Leave The Heavy Thinking
January 2, 2015 at 3:16 pm
Yeah, it's about as dumb as saying whoever wins the lottery must be really special and it's a divine gift, because it was so unlikely they would win just by chance.
And as usual, they scrabble for a deistic God then hope we don't notice when they swap in Yahweh with one hand while waving a bible around in the other. Not nice try, negative cigars.
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RE: God Buggerers Should Leave The Heavy Thinking
January 2, 2015 at 3:17 pm
(January 2, 2015 at 3:10 pm)Chad32 Wrote: They don't understand that it doesn't matter how unlikely something is.
They know that if you can make something
seem unlikely enough, people will dismiss even the possibility of it happening. Hence the disingenuous odds-making that they throw around.
The fine-tuning argument depends on two things that have not been (and perhaps cannot be) determined: that certain variables are required for a life-supporting universe, and that those variables must fall within a very small range or be 'balanced' within a small range. Metaxas inflates the first to "over 200 known parameters" and implies the second when he says that "every single one [...] must be perfectly met, or the whole thing falls apart."
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: God Buggerers Should Leave The Heavy Thinking
January 2, 2015 at 3:48 pm
(January 2, 2015 at 3:44 pm)FreeTony Wrote: (January 2, 2015 at 3:16 pm)robvalue Wrote: Yeah, it's about as dumb as saying whoever wins the lottery must be really special and it's a divine gift, because it was so unlikely they would win just by chance.
However this is what happens. Karma/God etc is always deemed a cause, and never just plain chance.
This seems apropos:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/...shlthreu11
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RE: God Buggerers Should Leave The Heavy Thinking
January 2, 2015 at 4:08 pm
Their world view comes tumbling down because they think it has a cause when in reality it doesn't.
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