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Why is there gravity?
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 (March 28, 2015 at 7:41 am)urlawyer Wrote:(March 28, 2015 at 7:39 am)I_am_not_mafia Wrote: Two words. Now I want to change my board moniker to The Quantum Entangler.
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
 (March 28, 2015 at 1:40 pm)Alex K Wrote: I don't understand. Is "density of space" a new property you introduce on top of riemannian geometry?Yes. For the cavitation to exist, space has to be a medium of some sort which would give it density.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy  RE: Why is there gravity?
March 28, 2015 at 1:48 pm
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(March 28, 2015 at 1:45 pm)IATIA Wrote:(March 28, 2015 at 1:40 pm)Alex K Wrote: I don't understand. Is "density of space" a new property you introduce on top of riemannian geometry?Yes. For the cavitation to exist, space has to be a medium of some sort which would give it density. How is it described mathematically? A scalar field? Do you write down field equations for it? Does it have physics consequences like impacting the metric and connection? (March 28, 2015 at 1:42 pm)Chuck Wrote:(March 28, 2015 at 1:10 pm)Alex K Wrote: Correction - everything sucks Ok, so we have now a nice joke on our hands: Everything sucks, except Dark Energy...
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
Right now, I am treating it like a fluid and using standard fluid equations. And yes. nothing plays well together or my thesis would be done and I would be in the headlines. I could be wrong, but from my observations and perspective, I think I am really on to something.
BTW, you say mathmatica is a good choice? Right now I use pencil and paper with occasional calculator use.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy  (March 28, 2015 at 1:37 pm)IATIA Wrote: I agree with you on the quality of the links and I do not fully subscribe to either one, but it is a good 'sounding board'. Not many subscribe to this idea at all. The various physics forums are as bad as christian fundamentalists when it comes to breaking out of their 'box'. They have no answer, but i am "completely wrong". I don't view you or your idea as crackpot. Your idea several weaknesses: accounting for charge (electric & color), interactions with messenger particles, discreteness (spin and charge). Not to mention the big questions of why two cavities don't merge together and how do other forces are incorporated. The only advantage is the density of states which you use as a pressure term. I wouldn't argue it as a pressure term. The biggest weakness I see (being a experimentalist) is that your theory doesn't seem to predict anything different from GR. RE: Why is there gravity?
March 28, 2015 at 2:44 pm
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(March 28, 2015 at 2:37 pm)Surgenator Wrote: The biggest weakness I see (being a experimentalist) is that your theory doesn't seem to predict anything different from GR.Technically, it should not. I expect to integrate gravity seamlessly into QM and rid it of the anomalies. And of course, everything sits in my head so well, but getting down on paper is always the problem.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy RE: Why is there gravity?
March 28, 2015 at 3:18 pm
(This post was last modified: March 28, 2015 at 3:36 pm by Alex K.)
IATIA, Surgenator
I'd be willing to delay the issues of spin, charge and all that for a transparent first step in the classical field theory realm: having proper mathematical control over this new density function and showing that this massive cavity solution even exists, if only in an approximation or numerically. If I were you I'd forget about quantum for a second and get a proper understanding of the classical boundary conditions for the fields at the defect where space ends Mathematica or anything similar would surely be a great help not only to solve equations but also to visualize (it can 3d plot)
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
I'm one of those people who are perfectly happy to make use of gravity, but have no idea how it works.
Odd fact about gravity: Years gone, I noticed that the more I drank, the stronger the gravity gusts became. Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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