What would you consider to be evidence for God?

[Cyberman]

Me too. I just need a willing partner.

[Neo-Scholastic]

...if I can conceive of greater beings than your shit of a god, it doesn't matter a fuck what the greatest being I can conceive of is, because your shit of a god has failed your maximally great being criterion.

Aren't your assuming a lot about what I believe, because frankly, I myself have a very difficult time comprehending the fullness of the God: an intelligent and infinite ground of Being, the author of Nature, a Creator that cares for His Creation, and participates in both the suffering and Salvation of His Children. That description may seem bland to some of you. As for me, such a God is a source of great awe and wonder. YMMV.

[GUBU]

...if I can conceive of greater beings than your shit of a god, it doesn't matter a fuck what the greatest being I can conceive of is, because your shit of a god has failed your maximally great being criterion.

Aren't your assuming a lot about what I believe, because frankly, I myself have a very difficult time comprehending the fullness of the God: an intelligent and infinite ground of Being, the author of Nature, a Creator that cares for His Creation, and participates in both the suffering and Salvation of His Children. That description may seem bland to some of you. As for me, such a God is a source of great awe and wonder. YMMV.

Chad, I know you're a fucking christian. I don't have to assume your god is a piece of shit, I've read the bible. So don't be giving me bullshit about me "not assuming what I believe", because what you believe is part and parcel of your religion.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Chad, I know you're a fucking christian. I don't have to assume your god is a piece of shit, I've read the bible. So don't be giving me bullshit about me "not assuming what I believe", because what you believe is part and parcel of your religion.

Why so bitter? Does your opinion of Christianity come solely from your reading of the bible or have you other experiences?

[abaris]

Why so bitter? Does your opinion of Christianity come solely from your reading of the bible or have you other experiences?

I won't lie, there are christians on this board I wouldn't want to shake hands with in real life. But I'm well aware they're not the whole of christianity. It just goes to show how an idea can be and ideal or something entirely inhumane, based on individual interpretation.

[GUBU]

Chad, I know you're a fucking christian. I don't have to assume your god is a piece of shit, I've read the bible. So don't be giving me bullshit about me "not assuming what I believe", because what you believe is part and parcel of your religion.

Why so bitter? Does your opinion of Christianity come solely from your reading of the bible or have you other experiences?

I'm not bitter about most christians, but idiots like you who think I'm an untermensch because I don't believe as you do, and the religious institutions in general (I've not met a hierarchy that doesn't want to do non-believers down). I've quite a lot of religious friends, because most individuals are better than the groups that run their belief systems.

My problem isn't people having beliefs, my problem is people pushing their beliefs on others. And right now you're one of those people.

[Neo-Scholastic]

I'm not bitter about most christians, but idiots like you who think I'm an untermensch because I don't believe as you do,...My problem isn't  people having beliefs, my problem is people pushing their beliefs on others. And right now you're one of those people.

I could be wrong but I don't recall being particularly rude to you specifically. What exactly do you mean by "pushing their beliefs on others"? As far as I can tell, all I've been doing is stating my opinions and defending them from objections. My manner is not always the most tactful and for that I apologize.

[snowtracks]

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Um, unless Leonard Susskind has changed his mind drastically in the past three years, I just read his book, and another which declares that Dr. Susskind is (quote) "a card-carrying atheist".

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In his book, he discusses the anthropic principle (aka the "fine tuning" argument, that the universe was made for us), before dismantling it with the latest discoveries in physics (mainly the multiverse concept, explaining why it is more likely the case).

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PS - That video is a horrible cut-and-paste job, grabbing only little quotes and then adding commentary! The person who made it should be ashamed.

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But did you catch what Weinberg was saying about the multiverse? which is even if there was evidence that it existed, that at least 10^56 universes would have to populate it in order to expect an universe like ours. *
An appeal to the multiverse is where nontheists have gone in their attempt to escape God but it’s just a metaphysical speculation that would requires trillions of universes to duplicate the delicate fine-tuning this one required for advanced life just in the first nanosecond.
　
* around the 10 min mark

[Neo-Scholastic]

An appeal to the multiverse is where nontheists have gone in their attempt to escape God but it’s just a metaphysical speculation...

The multiverse still does not solve the issue. What are the rules governing the creation of various universes? Those also are tuned then to allow for this particular universe to be created.

[Angrboda]

An appeal to the multiverse is where nontheists have gone in their attempt to escape God but it’s just a metaphysical speculation...

The multiverse still does not solve the issue. What are the rules governing the creation of various universes? Those also are tuned then to allow for this particular universe to be created.

Well that's the $64,000 question. Are there rules governing the creation of universes? What are the parameters? What are the ranges of acceptable values? Until these questions are answered, talk of 'fine tuning' is just so much hot air.