Two Undeniable Truths Why Theism is True and Atheism and Agnosticism are Not True

[FreeTony]

School holiday time of year again.

[Iroscato]

Oh goody, a new chew toy! The others were starting to get holes in them...

[Longhorn]

wasn't me!

[robvalue]

Oh was it Kuran verses not bible? Well, makes no difference.

Notice how you jumped between "some sort of creator" to "my particular God in my religion" with no explanation. I have no problem with the possibility of some sort of creator, whether or not it still exists is another matter. But to then pull out a book and expect me to believe it tells you all about him is ridiculous.

[Nope]

Of course, it is not good enough just to know God exists, for even the most evil person who ever lived knows this.

Why would I deny the existence of a creator that I really believe exists? I believe theists use this argument to protect a faith that is based on very weak evidence. The theists doesn't have to listen to what those evil atheists say because the only reason someone would deny god is because they are depraved. It also prevents the theist from having to interact and have an actual discussion with us.

Yes, HiYou, such a approach to us will make many people angry because it is dehumanizing.

[The Inquisition]

I was hoping to have some sincere, well thought out, conscientious genuine replies, but none have been forthcoming yet.

Maybe tomorrow. I believe in miracles.

I am praying for a miracle will arrive by the time I come back on here tomorrow.

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It's so nice how he reads and responds to the comments in his thread.....

Wayward Pines is like the Garden of Eden but without all the deceit, because there was one place on earth that was safe to live in the Garden of Eden. The reason it was not safe outside of the Garden of Eden was because there were creatures that killed including pre-Adamic men.

But the first Adamic man (another way of saying he had God-consciousness in his spirit so he would never cease to exist) was protected in the Garden around 3986 BC (adding up the ages in Scripture, born 4004 BC) when he was 18 (age of accountability for him) when God breathed in the breath of life directly creating his spirit, and when it made contact with the body of this pre-Adamic man he became a living soul with a spirit (innerman) and a body (outerman).

Gen. 1.2 says God caused the earth to become desolate and waste around 65 million years ago due to the sin of the inhabitants of earth's earliest ages (dinosaurs). The demonic spirits in them were cast into the abyss. In the restoration summed up by the 6 literal days, unavoidably some of those demonic spirits escaped from the deep on Day 4 (see below for explanation). Killing even on a microbial scale was not completely eradicated in the desolation or restoration. You have more bacteria and organisms in your body than there is cells.

Day 1 - there was light but can't see the outline of the sun and moon yet because of the haze being hit by an asteroid and lack of atmosphere from the desolation.
Day 2 - firmament was split, waters above and below, when up came some demons from the deep which are disembodied spirits that seek to inhabit others. One went into the serpent to tempt Adam and Eve. Interestingly, Day 2 is the only day not called a 'good day' because of those demonic spirits that escaped.
Day 4 - You could finally see the outline of the sun and moon because the haze had diminished.

In Wayward Pines it is only the children (Christians, e.g. like the 10 virgins in Matt. 25.1-13) who are able to accept what is really going on. Adults are too stuck in their ways which is why you hardly ever seen someone past the age of 40 ever give their life to Christ. In the tv show, people are brought forward 2000 years showing they will never cease to exist for they are resurrected just like everyone from Adam on are resurrected either for Heaven or for Hell. Rebellious, independent sinners want out of the Garden of Eden just like in Wayward Pines they wanted to go beyond the protective wall.

Those who are rebellious die in their sins. Believers who are carnal are put back in stasis. Consider this like "outer darkness" outside the light of reward of reigning wit Christ during the millennial kingdom. It has no fire or furnace about it. But they don't get to enter the marriage feast. They will be part of God's kingdom again when they have been disciplined in stasis. They will be repentant when released.

The people who are running Wayward Pines from up high in the mountain are like the administrators or angels such as in Rev. 4 the 24 archangels. Once the Lord returns they will take a subservient role to the children of Wayward Pines like the angels in the Bible will also.

Angels as messengers like humans who monitor what is going on in Wayward Pines take up the prayers of the saints (children are the saints in the tv show). If those prayers are in keeping with the will up on high well pleasing to God, they will be enacted upon by God, for praying is praying the will of God.

You wonder why in the tv show there are these people who run Wayward Pines from their lofty positions. Why not wake everyone up with this knowledge? Why create a Wayward Pines at all? The reason is because they all died as the first wave of people resurrected killed themselves because they couldn't handle the truth. Whereas those who were running the day to day operations of Wayward Pines were told in advance 2000 years ago they were chosen for this role and promised they would wake up in 2000 years. They are like angels.

You are pretty much insane and detached from reality. So just curious, what sin did the dinosaurs commit? How would the dinosaurs know what a "sin" was? Did god give them a dinosaur bible to read? Did he send Raptor Jesus to save them and all they did was eat him?

You did know there have been at least six extinction events that we know of, the K-T event was not even the worst one, the Permian-Triassic extinction event was the deadliest, more than 90% of all species disappeared from that event 250 million years ago, this paved the way for the rise of dinosaurs.

So if you distort the bible enough to shove old-earth creation into it's pages (a day being an age) which creation myth do you believe? The one in the 1st chapter or the one written by another author in the second chapter?

[LostLocke]

Oh, he's banned? What a shame.
Shoulda known there was something 'off' about this guy when he sent a personal PM to me explaining how Wayward Pines backs up his Bible/Quran claims.

[robvalue]

Everyone thinks they have Nobel prize winning arguments that we've never heard before.

Same old shit.

[The Inquisition]

Oh, he's banned? What a shame.
Shoulda known there was something 'off' about this guy when he sent a personal PM to me explaining how Wayward Pines backs up his Bible/Quran claims.

Hmmm, I guess "Wayward Pines" is the name of the mental institution they inhabit?

Hopefully the nurses caught him and put him back into his room and gave him his meds.

[brewer]

Help me out here. I'm trying to improve on my POE identification abilities. Are you a POE?

To the others here, is this a POE?

I'm a little gun shy after PiousPaladin.