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September 2, 2015 at 6:56 pm
(September 2, 2015 at 6:14 pm)Beccs Wrote: I put a game proposal to the Parker Brothers game company once.
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September 2, 2015 at 7:04 pm
(September 2, 2015 at 6:56 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (September 2, 2015 at 6:14 pm)Beccs Wrote: I put a game proposal to the Parker Brothers game company once.
It was called "Incest: The Game for the Entire Family"
I didn't hear back from them...
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September 3, 2015 at 4:07 am
(This post was last modified: September 3, 2015 at 4:08 am by Tartarus Sauce.)
(September 2, 2015 at 3:25 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (September 2, 2015 at 12:56 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Yes, I have a pretty libertarian view on some things. If you're not hurting/endangering anyone else, I don't think the government needs to get involved. I think drug use and prostitution should be legal, despite how much I'm against those things. I just tell myself that us people of faith should answer to a higher law, regardless of what man's law is.
I wouldn't go so far as legalizing prostitution. It would become too easy for wicked people to legally exploit vulnerable and desperate people. Also, human trafficking, pimping, and pedophilia would be too easy to conceal from "regulators" and law-enforcement. I don't think trying to emulate the Bunny Ranch nationally would work. Those abuses seem to invariably accompany prostitution. Which is nothing compared to how easy it is for those desperate and vulnerable people to be exploited right now because there is NO regulation throughout most of the globe. The sex industry is mostly composed of unwilling participants abused on a regular basis precisely because the trade is controlled by criminals and illicit organizations. The best way to destabilize groups like that is to decriminalize whatever service or product they monopolize and provide a legal venue for its acquisition. Even if they could find loopholes, the very fact that it's been legalized has significantly reduced their influence since they are no longer the most attractive service providers.
If every country legalized and regulated prostitution, there would be a MASSIVE dip in human trafficking globally.
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September 3, 2015 at 7:42 am
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(September 3, 2015 at 4:07 am)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: If every country legalized and regulated prostitution, there would be a MASSIVE dip in human trafficking globally.
Exactly. Are you going to visit a nice clean regulated brothel or some sleazy back alley whore house. Same with drugs. You have a choice of clean drugs or bathroom poison. I think regulation would be good.
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September 3, 2015 at 8:48 am
I understand the libertarian position. Heck, I generally consider myself a libertarian yet legalized prostitution crosses the line. To make a prostitute you only need to threaten a vulnerable person with violence. Or if someone is desperate enough they can instantly start to sell themselves. The differece is that the weak are compelled by others or desparation into prostitution whereas drug use is much more voluntary and people are rarely forced to use drugs. A civil society protects its weakest members from exploitation and assists them to find dignified and productive ways of supporting themselves.
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September 3, 2015 at 8:53 am
Let me get this straight, incest is illegal because of the enhanced likelihood of defective offspring? And that's it?
Hmmm... but two people with down's syndrome are legally allowed to marry, aren't they?
Shouldn't then there be some requirement for determining the actual likelihood of defective offspring, prior to any marriage? With genetic testing getting cheaper and cheaper, I can see that becoming a better gauge of who should and shouldn't marry, than just prevent brothers from having their way.
It's not something available to all siblings, but I don't see why that should be such a barrier to their happiness.
Considering all the autistic and Attention deficient children running around, I'd say that incest-born wouldn't be that different.
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September 3, 2015 at 10:41 am
I agree, I think it's an emotional rather than a practical law.
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September 3, 2015 at 4:36 pm
(September 3, 2015 at 8:48 am)ChadWooters Wrote: ... people are rarely forced to use drugs.
Not forced, but tricked into free drugs. Now they get hooked and can either raise money or customers for their next fix.
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September 3, 2015 at 4:50 pm
(September 3, 2015 at 7:42 am)IATIA Wrote: (September 3, 2015 at 4:07 am)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: If every country legalized and regulated prostitution, there would be a MASSIVE dip in human trafficking globally.
Exactly. Are you going to visit a nice clean regulated brothel or some sleazy back alley whore house. Same with drugs. You have a choice of clean drugs or bathroom poison. I think regulation would be good. This is a very simplistic argument - Why should I visit a regulated brothel when it costs 50€ for a session when the street prostitute provides a full service for 15€? Oh, and don't even start on quality - Some street prostitutes are attractive and efficient. Why should I trust the government to provide me drugs if I've used the same dealer for 10 years? Do you think people magically decide to change suppliers because one is a public entity? In fact, I have bad experiences with government services on a general rule, so why should I trust it for drugs? I'm not saying regulation is a bad idea, I'm saying that's a simplistic idea and it's not how it works.
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September 3, 2015 at 4:52 pm
(September 3, 2015 at 4:07 am)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: (September 2, 2015 at 3:25 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: I wouldn't go so far as legalizing prostitution. It would become too easy for wicked people to legally exploit vulnerable and desperate people. Also, human trafficking, pimping, and pedophilia would be too easy to conceal from "regulators" and law-enforcement. I don't think trying to emulate the Bunny Ranch nationally would work. Those abuses seem to invariably accompany prostitution. Which is nothing compared to how easy it is for those desperate and vulnerable people to be exploited right now because there is NO regulation throughout most of the globe. The sex industry is mostly composed of unwilling participants abused on a regular basis precisely because the trade is controlled by criminals and illicit organizations. The best way to destabilize groups like that is to decriminalize whatever service or product they monopolize and provide a legal venue for its acquisition. Even if they could find loopholes, the very fact that it's been legalized has significantly reduced their influence since they are no longer the most attractive service providers.
If every country legalized and regulated prostitution, there would be a MASSIVE dip in human trafficking globally. No evidence for that since it has never happened - I don't htink it is that simple because human trafficking is (1) not only for sex purposes (2) sex slavery isn't just prostitution. Unlike what some people think, a lot of sex slavery actually happens and starts when you're just a child with your parents using you as a product and then you are forced to work in lots of awful scenarios which can include brothels but also other kinds of services that mere regulation won't prevent.
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