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RE: The Paradox of Power....
September 26, 2015 at 11:52 am
(September 26, 2015 at 11:48 am)Believer21u Wrote: (September 26, 2015 at 11:41 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Nobody will enter heaven because heaven doesn't exist. It's a myth.
Does hell exist's the church and the bible teach's that it does.But suppose you say the bible is false then you will have,to prove me why the bible is wrong.
It doesn't work that way. The assignment of the burden of proof doesn't go to the first person who brings it up. It actually goes to the person making the positive claim. A person who doesn't accept the bible as the really special word of god isn't making any claim. He is simply rejecting your silly notion.
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
September 26, 2015 at 11:53 am
(September 26, 2015 at 3:00 am)Believer21u Wrote: True,the church cannot get destroyed.
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
September 26, 2015 at 11:54 am
(September 26, 2015 at 11:50 am)Believer21u Wrote: (September 26, 2015 at 11:45 am)robvalue Wrote: What does that mean, god is not mocked?
If I mock him, it doesn't count? It gets wiped from history?
Sorry friend,but God remember's everything you say and he knows what your going to say next.God WILL take them personal if you will not repent.
Your concept of God reminds me a lot of J. Edgar Hoover. Long memory and judgmental as hell.
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
September 26, 2015 at 11:56 am
(September 26, 2015 at 11:45 am)robvalue Wrote: What does that mean, god is not mocked?
If I mock him, it doesn't count? It gets wiped from history?
Man, I've been trying to figure that out. "God is not mocked!" is one of the favorite expressions of the people from Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas (literally half a mile up the street where my office was located, when I was a field biologist), and I've been trying to figure out for years what it meant.
If you don't know, WBC are the "God Hates Fags!" protesters that show up everywhere with signs and chanted slogans.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
September 26, 2015 at 12:01 pm
(September 26, 2015 at 11:48 am)Believer21u Wrote: (September 26, 2015 at 11:41 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Nobody will enter heaven because heaven doesn't exist. It's a myth.
Does hell exist's the church and the bible teach's that it does.But suppose you say the bible is false then you will have,to prove me why the bible is wrong.
What reason do you have for believing that the bible is true?
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
September 26, 2015 at 12:01 pm
(September 26, 2015 at 11:01 am)Believer21u Wrote: According to one the true apostolic church by saint peter head of the apostles.Not going church is a sin.
A sin is crime against God. So why does God need you to go to church? How does he benefit from it?
This is the same god giving you freedom yes?
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
September 26, 2015 at 12:19 pm
Quote:The church did not kill anyone
Jeanne d'Arc and Giordano Bruno would beg to differ.
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
September 26, 2015 at 12:24 pm
People have killed so many in the name of religion that I'm not sure how anyone can say the church never killed anyone with a straight face.
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
September 26, 2015 at 12:32 pm
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(September 26, 2015 at 11:50 am)Believer21u Wrote: (September 26, 2015 at 11:45 am)robvalue Wrote: What does that mean, god is not mocked?
If I mock him, it doesn't count? It gets wiped from history?
Sorry friend,but God remember's everything you say and he knows what your going to say next.God WILL take them personal if you will not repent.
Oh right, I've got no free will then. I only repent if he decides before hand I was going to repent. I'm just a puppet for his weird theater.
Why is god such a glass jaw? I'm a softie, but even I'm not so easily upset as god.
God's a cock. He knew I would say that, so he was responsible for me saying it as I had no choice. He is one weird dude. Calling himself a cock through a flesh puppet.
This still doesn't explain how he is "not mocked". I just mocked him right? He is so mocked.
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
September 26, 2015 at 1:15 pm
Believer, it's your job to convince us that the bible is true. Why don't you try that? Try to convince us why the bible is true.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
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