(September 26, 2015 at 11:19 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: I made a couple of adjustments in order to find some common ground with you, BeleiverMan.  How'd I do?

• God (supreme father figure, judgmental, omnishit and generally nice guy,
  
• Heaven (God's omni-carrot)
  
• Aim and purpose in life (following God and obeying him,we were created for God's amusement)
  
• Inner peace and joy (When we become subs and accept Christ as our master/dominatrix)
  
• Reconciliation (Restoring relationship with God,which is blocked by our sinsby submitting to His lash)
  
• Sin (What we do in order to receive god's attention )
  
• Freedom (God gives us freedom from self determination, fear of hell (the omni-stickwhen we put our faith in him)
  

This is your definition.but not the true definition of the church my friend.Everything you think,everything you say,everything you  type/write everything you do,of which God is aware of.

Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.Galatians 6:7

(September 26, 2015 at 10:46 am)Believer21u Wrote:

(September 26, 2015 at 10:42 am)I_am_not_mafia Wrote: Glad you're getting your money's worth out of it then. Otherwise it becomes a bit like a gym membership when you just end up feeling guilty for paying a monthly fee and never use it.

This is not about money.It's about God.

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(September 26, 2015 at 10:46 am)Chad32 Wrote: But it can be twisted and corrupted. I'm pretty sure Jesus was strongly anti wealth, yet the Pope lives in a fabulous palace. Faith is not a virtue. It causes people to be close-minded. It tears families apart. I kind of wish christians were much more humble, but that doesn't mesh well with their need to run everyone's lives.

God gift's him or makes him rich,probably.

I don't think the money comes from heaven. It comes from fleecing the sheep.

When you do something worthy of mocking, you should be mocked. Part of the problem with people in power is that they think power makes them immutable to judgement. For a social species, this is rather stupid.

(September 26, 2015 at 11:01 am)Believer21u Wrote: It's the same with unbelief as if you will not have faith you will not enter heaven.

Nobody will enter heaven because heaven doesn't exist. It's a myth.

(September 26, 2015 at 11:25 am)Believer21u Wrote:

(September 26, 2015 at 11:19 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: I made a couple of adjustments in order to find some common ground with you, BeleiverMan.  How'd I do?

• God (supreme father figure, judgmental, omnishit and generally nice guy,
  
• Heaven (God's omni-carrot)
  
• Aim and purpose in life (following God and obeying him,we were created for God's amusement)
  
• Inner peace and joy (When we become subs and accept Christ as our master/dominatrix)
  
• Reconciliation (Restoring relationship with God,which is blocked by our sinsby submitting to His lash)
  
• Sin (What we do in order to receive god's attention )
  
• Freedom (God gives us freedom from self determination, fear of hell (the omni-stickwhen we put our faith in him)
  

This is your definition.but not the true definition of the church my friend.Everything you think,everything you say,everything you  type/write everything you do,of which God is aware of.

Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.Galatians 6:7

Come now, surely God can take a joke?  I'll bet he has a much more omni-sense of humor than you give Him credit for.  But I actually agree with you about submission to 'god', at least the way I define it. 

God isn't out there.  God is a name for the ground of being inside.  Our conscious minds are so well developed that we lose track of the rest of consciousness.  We're an experiment.  Can a creature invest this heavily in an autonomous deductive/inductive evaluative function and still survive and thrive as the organism it is?  Connecting to 'god', understood this way, really is important.  But no worship is needed, nor tithing, nor early Sunday meetings.  Are you sure you wouldn't rather join my belief system?

I wouldn't want to be in heaven anyway. Technically I can't be, because the only way I'd be able t stay is if Yahweh lobotomized me. Which is the implication, given how he feels about thoughts equaling actions. You will think only what he wants you to think. You will do only what he wants you to do.

What does that mean, god is not mocked?

If I mock him, it doesn't count? It gets wiped from history?

(September 26, 2015 at 11:41 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 26, 2015 at 11:01 am)Believer21u Wrote: It's the same with unbelief as if you will not have faith you will not enter heaven.

Nobody will enter heaven because heaven doesn't exist.  It's a myth.

Does hell exist's the church and the bible teach's that it does.But suppose you say the bible is false then you will have,to prove me why the bible is wrong.

To BelieverMan: are you not amused???

To God: are you not mocked???

(September 26, 2015 at 11:45 am)robvalue Wrote: What does that mean, god is not mocked?

If I mock him, it doesn't count? It gets wiped from history?

Sorry friend,but God remember's everything you say and he knows what your going to say next.God WILL take them personal if you will not repent.

We don't have t prove the bible is wrong. That's not our burden. There are many holy books, and many gods, creators of the universe or not. I don't have the time, energy, or patience, to disprove all supernatural entities that anyone has ever believed in.

As a responsible adult, I'm not worried about taking responsibility for my actions.