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Poll: U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause
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Only "natural born citizens" should be allowed to be President.
29.73%
11 29.73%
All citizens should be allowed to be President, but there should be other restrictions on people who are not "natural born citizens".
13.51%
5 13.51%
All citizens should be allowed to become President, and should be treated in the same way.
56.76%
21 56.76%
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U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause
RE: U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause
Thanks, I do have concerns regarding my mental health - but coming from you, it's predictable that my health care providers have no immediate cause for changing anything.
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RE: U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause
(February 17, 2016 at 9:22 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: Thanks, I do have concerns regarding my mental health - but coming from you, it's predictable that my health care providers have no immediate cause for changing anything.
You're welcome.  Just want you to enjoy good health in everything.  Sometimes you don't see the train even if you're on the train tracks.
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RE: U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause
(February 17, 2016 at 10:01 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(February 17, 2016 at 9:22 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: Thanks, I do have concerns regarding my mental health - but coming from you, it's predictable that my health care providers have no immediate cause for changing anything.
You're welcome.  Just want you to enjoy good health in everything.  Sometimes you don't see the train even if you're on the train tracks.

Don't look now, Buddy, but I think that light at the end of the tunnel is moving at you!
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RE: U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause
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RE: U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause
If Cruz is a natural born citizen then so is this guy.  https://www.facebook.com/LiberalMountain...=3&theater
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RE: U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause
(February 22, 2016 at 2:57 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: If Cruz is a natural born citizen then so is this guy.  https://www.facebook.com/LiberalMountain...=3&theater

Prince Hashim is not yet 35 years of age and has not met the 14 year residency requirement.
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RE: U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause
(February 22, 2016 at 9:09 am)Cato Wrote:
(February 22, 2016 at 2:57 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: If Cruz is a natural born citizen then so is this guy.  https://www.facebook.com/LiberalMountain...=3&theater

Prince Hashim is not yet 35 years of age and has not met the 14 year residency requirement.

But if he does get that would you claim that he is a natural born citizen who is eligible to be elected President?
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RE: U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause
Hmmm..... people have been so worried about what "natural-born" means under US law that they have forgotten to check Canadian law.  Until now.

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/03/ted-cr...presidency

Quote:[*]1. Raphael & Eleanor Cruz emigrated to Canada sometime in the 1960s and in 1968 Mr. Cruz became a naturalized Canadian Citizen. It appears that Eleanor by virtue of her marriage also attained Citizenship one year later and Raphael Eduardo (Ted) Cruz was born December 22, 1970. We have never seen their Marriage License so I am unsure of their actual date of marriage as both were in process of getting divorced.

[*]2. Until the 1977 changes to Canadian Immigration Law, NO dual citizenship was permitted which means Mrs. Cruz relinquished her US Citizenship and Ted was born to 2 Canadian parents.
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RE: U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause
Did she actually relinquish her US Citizenship though? As far as I'm aware, there's a few steps you have to go through in order to do that. If she didn't do it, then whilst the Canadian government would have considered her only Canadian, the US government would have considered her a dual citizen. Dual citizenships are difficult in that respect; some countries respect them and others don't, and the rules only apply where you currently are. The Canadian government can't take away someone's US citizenship just because they don't recognise it, even if that person signed a statement to the Canadian government that they were giving up their US citizenship. As far as I'm aware, the US government is the only government that can accept such a statement.

It depends on how rigorous the Canadian checks were. Was she required to present a signed declaration that the US government no longer recognised her citizenship?

I agree that if she actually relinquished her US citizenship, Ted Cruz would undoubtably be a Canadian citizen with no actual right to be an American citizen, let alone be eligible for the Presidency. If it's true, then his entire political career has been illegal. Which is why I highly doubt it is true.

Besides, this just happened: http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/03/11/penn...president/
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RE: U.S. Presidents & The Natural-born-citizen Clause
I believe they should be a natural born citizen. I also think there should be added a requirement that they honorably served in the military, after all, Commander-in-Chief.
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