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RE: Gorilla killed
June 1, 2016 at 2:24 am
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(June 1, 2016 at 1:35 am)Maelstrom Wrote: First of all, I am surprised this has not been posted on the forum.
Secondly, fuck that stupid zoo.
I understand that a boy's life was in danger, but was there a reason why tranquilizers were not used?
Wow. Firstly - as you said, the life of a defenceless boy was in danger. The Gorilla had already dragged him quite violently from where he fell to another area. Secondly - how the fuck do you know better than the zoo staff in how to respond to an emergency situation with one of their animals and a child? Thirdly, as already noted, tranquillisers were not an option.
And let me say I also disagree with those blaming the parents. WTF? The Zoo are the ones who should ensure their environment is safe for visitors, not the visitors.
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RE: Gorilla killed
June 1, 2016 at 3:42 am
(June 1, 2016 at 1:50 am)ignoramus Wrote: Higher fences it is then.
Such a majestic beast too.
I believe the gorilla had good intentions, just too rough on the boy....oh well....
The higher species wins again, naturally!
The kid didn't climb the fence. He went through a hole in the fence. I hope Trump doesn't hire that contractor to build the wall.
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RE: Gorilla killed
June 1, 2016 at 3:45 am
(June 1, 2016 at 2:24 am)Aractus Wrote: (June 1, 2016 at 1:35 am)Maelstrom Wrote: First of all, I am surprised this has not been posted on the forum.
Secondly, fuck that stupid zoo.
I understand that a boy's life was in danger, but was there a reason why tranquilizers were not used?
Wow. Firstly - as you said, the life of a defenceless boy was in danger. The Gorilla had already dragged him quite violently from where he fell to another area. Secondly - how the fuck do you know better than the zoo staff in how to respond to an emergency situation with one of their animals and a child? Thirdly, as already noted, tranquillisers were not an option.
And let me say I also disagree with those blaming the parents. WTF? The Zoo are the ones who should ensure their environment is safe for visitors, not the visitors. The boy wasn't in any danger from the gorillas. He could have stayed with them for years and became a modern day Tarzan.
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RE: Gorilla killed
June 1, 2016 at 4:14 am
I've never been a parent, never will be. But if that had been my child in the gorilla enclosure, I would have supported shooting that fucking ape to bits.
And - just to nit pick - Tarzan was not raised by gorillas, but by the Mangani.
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RE: Gorilla killed
June 1, 2016 at 4:17 am
(June 1, 2016 at 1:52 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: I don't think the kid climbed over the fence... 
(June 1, 2016 at 1:50 am)ignoramus Wrote: I believe the gorilla had good intentions, just too rough on the boy....oh well....
The higher species wins again, naturally!
One of the handlers was saying that Harambe was agitated before that, and had been squashing melons with his bare hands.
It should not have been possible for a toddler to get in that area. Ultimately it was the zoos fault.
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RE: Gorilla killed
June 1, 2016 at 4:29 am
(June 1, 2016 at 4:14 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I've never been a parent, never will be. But if that had been my child in the gorilla enclosure, I would have supported shooting that fucking ape to bits.
Yeah, no shit, right? I think I would have been in there myself before they could even find their guns.
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RE: Gorilla killed
June 1, 2016 at 4:29 am
(June 1, 2016 at 3:45 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The boy wasn't in any danger from the gorillas. He could have stayed with them for years and became a modern day Tarzan.
I don't think science will ever understand what goes on in your head. An enigma.
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RE: Gorilla killed
June 1, 2016 at 5:01 am
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(June 1, 2016 at 3:45 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The boy wasn't in any danger from the gorillas. He could have stayed with them for years and became a modern day Tarzan.
How do you know?
(June 1, 2016 at 4:17 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: It should not have been possible for a toddler to get in that area. Ultimately it was the zoos fault.
Agreed! But - at fault of what exactly? They protected their visitors so ultimately they did their job to the best of their abilities. I think this is what people forget- there is a hierarchy of priorities and the safety of visitors is at the top, the comport and safety of enclosed animals is below that. I'm personally please to see they didn't have a hierarchy that put human safety lower.
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RE: Gorilla killed
June 1, 2016 at 5:22 am
(June 1, 2016 at 4:14 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I've never been a parent, never will be. But if that had been my child in the gorilla enclosure, I would have supported shooting that fucking ape to bits.
And at the same time, I'd hope the zoo will sue your guts. It's called supervision. I've been to the zoo numerous times when I was a kid and that being the 60ies, fences weren't even there in places. I was fascinated by a gator in a pond. Just a wall with a low rail. My parents were the ones making sure, I didn't climb in with him.
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RE: Gorilla killed
June 1, 2016 at 6:16 am
Well... here is a subject that suddenly got people talking...
As for me, I've been to the zoo a bunch of times with my kids and I know how to keep them away from any danger that they may do to themselves... stupid kids will be stupid!
That said, it's a matter of time until something like this happens in a place that is open to the public, so... better safety measures should be in place to account for stupid kids. Sure, those may detract from enjoying the wildlife... but it's better than what happened here.
Concerning the poor animal... well.... I don't know... If it was my kid, I'd be glad they shot him, of course. Since it wasn't my kid, I get emotional distance and see one less individual of a threatened species, for the sake of a stoopid hooman... not sure the trade-off was a positive one.
Ok, tranquilizers were off the menu, but.... how about gorilla grade tasers?! There seem to be bear-grade ones...
http://gizmodo.com/5737266/bear-trouble-...r-for-that
Are zoos that under-equipped that their only options are tranquilizers and wait an hour, or kill?
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