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My Top 10 Sci-Fi Movies
#21
RE: My Top 10 Sci-Fi Movies
I think I loved the martian as much or better than interstellar.
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#22
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(June 12, 2016 at 7:26 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote:
(June 12, 2016 at 7:19 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: Some of us weren't droids.

I'm sure some of you weren't, but the massive success of the movie was still built on inflation. Many saw it because advertising had dedicated so much time, money and internet space into forcefully making it the movie everyone was supposed to go see. It wasn't word of mouth about the quality of the film that filled seats, it was well-funded, persistent drilling of the movie into the public's collective consciousness.

Don't remember much of that. But then I ignore hype, at least since 1956.
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#23
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(June 12, 2016 at 7:30 pm)ignoramus Wrote: I think I loved the martian as much or better than interstellar.

I haven't seen "Interstellar" all the way through since the first time at the theater. I have both versions of the Blu-ray on Flixster.
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#24
RE: My Top 10 Sci-Fi Movies
(June 12, 2016 at 7:30 pm)ignoramus Wrote: I think I loved the martian as much or better than interstellar.

The Martian was a decent film, but I prefer Interstellar. I just enjoyed the complexity they put into just about all aspects of the film. The science, the characters, the politics, everything. For me, it was one of those rare films that left me speechless. Really, it's just a breathtaking film. The Martian made me think of Castaway in space, lol. I mean don't get me wrong, I liked that movie too, but it doesn't hold up when compared to Interstellar in my opinion.
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RE: My Top 10 Sci-Fi Movies
(June 12, 2016 at 7:30 pm)ignoramus Wrote: I think I loved the martian as much or better than interstellar.
Ok I'm going to rant a bit. Interstellar isn't a bad film. But - could have been much better.
In hindsight I can't really grog the feeley-lovey BS in interstellar. Loving father connects to his daughter's bookshelf via spacetime rift in order to save the world. As a science nerd, this to me is simply one more scifi movie ruined by liberal artsy types who couldn't bear the thought of having a film about cool spacetime phenomena without it all being a heavy-handed metaphor for human feefees. The no-nonsense plot of the Martian is a breath of fresh air in comparison. Don't get me wrong, a good space movie can absolutely reflect on the human condition, and love, and loss and all that. But why can't you let dead cold space simply be dead cold space - why does the wormhole have to be a daddy-loveotron. That's BS by people lacking the imagination to do anything but love stories. That's the same reason why Lem hated the new Solaris movie - because the director and writers were too dumb to understand the astonishing philosophical point of the novel and made a love story out of it.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#26
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(June 13, 2016 at 2:06 am)Alex K Wrote:
(June 12, 2016 at 7:30 pm)ignoramus Wrote: I think I loved the martian as much or better than interstellar.
Ok I'm going to rant a bit. Interstellar isn't a bad film. But - could have been much better.
In hindsight I can't really grog the feeley-lovey BS in interstellar. Loving father connects to his daughter's bookshelf via spacetime rift in order to save the world. As a science nerd, this to me is simply one more scifi movie ruined by liberal artsy types who couldn't bear the thought of having a film about cool spacetime phenomena without it all being a heavy-handed metaphor for human feefees. The no-nonsense plot of the Martian is a breath of fresh air in comparison. Don't get me wrong, a good space movie can absolutely reflect on the human condition, and love, and loss and all that. But why can't you let dead cold space simply be dead cold space - why does the wormhole have to be a daddy-loveotron. That's BS by people lacking the imagination to do anything but love stories. That's the same reason why Lem hated the new Solaris movie - because the director and writers were too dumb to understand the astonishing philosophical point of the novel and made a love story out of it.

I kinda liked that they made scientists as just more than these frizzy haired guys in lab coats that talk about data and nothing else. I like how they made them human characters that had families, and so on. We have enough science fiction that is cold and dry just talking about the science stuff. Now we have a sci-fi movie that does that while also writing in some appeals to emotions. It allows for a bit more depth in the characters, which allows for more than just geeks to enjoy and relate to the film.
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(June 13, 2016 at 3:45 am)Mechaghostman2 Wrote:
(June 13, 2016 at 2:06 am)Alex K Wrote: Ok I'm going to rant a bit. Interstellar isn't a bad film. But - could have been much better.
In hindsight I can't really grog the feeley-lovey BS in interstellar. Loving father connects to his daughter's bookshelf via spacetime rift in order to save the world. As a science nerd, this to me is simply one more scifi movie ruined by liberal artsy types who couldn't bear the thought of having a film about cool spacetime phenomena without it all being a heavy-handed metaphor for human feefees. The no-nonsense plot of the Martian is a breath of fresh air in comparison. Don't get me wrong, a good space movie can absolutely reflect on the human condition, and love, and loss and all that. But why can't you let dead cold space simply be dead cold space - why does the wormhole have to be a daddy-loveotron. That's BS by people lacking the imagination to do anything but love stories. That's the same reason why Lem hated the new Solaris movie - because the director and writers were too dumb to understand the astonishing philosophical point of the novel and made a love story out of it.

I kinda liked that they made scientists as just more than these frizzy haired guys in lab coats that talk about data and nothing else. I like how they made them human characters that had families, and so on. We have enough science fiction that is cold and dry just talking about the science stuff. Now we have a sci-fi movie that does that while also writing in some appeals to emotions. It allows for a bit more depth in the characters, which allows for more than just geeks to enjoy and relate to the film.

By all means, scifi characters and movie scientists should have real depth, and the films shouln't just talk about science stuff - what annoyed me was how the grandeur of space, in the end, to me was reduced to be a somewhat trivial prop in a love story. I think the movie is absolutely great in the first half - the idea that moon landing denial would be a near mainstream belief because believing otherwise would show how far we have fallen, that was pure genius, and the portrayal of the characters coping with life on this desolate earth was top notch.

I see that I really need to write my own scifi novel - I want personal depth and emotion, but I want space to be grand and cold, a magical yet uncaring monstrosity into which the characters find themselves thrown and, in the face of the absurd, struggle with what it means to be human. That's the stuff of great scifi in my book. Having the wormhole be a glorified telephone to your daughters toy shelf kind of negates all that.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#28
RE: My Top 10 Sci-Fi Movies
Agree 100% with Alex. Also didn't mind Gravity for the eye candy even if it wasn't "real life".
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Know God, Know fear.
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#29
RE: My Top 10 Sci-Fi Movies
(June 13, 2016 at 2:06 am)Alex K Wrote:
(June 12, 2016 at 7:30 pm)ignoramus Wrote: I think I loved the martian as much or better than interstellar.
Ok I'm going to rant a bit. Interstellar isn't a bad film. But - could have been much better.
In hindsight I can't really grog the feeley-lovey BS in interstellar. Loving father connects to his daughter's bookshelf via spacetime rift in order to save the world. As a science nerd, this to me is simply one more scifi movie ruined by liberal artsy types who couldn't bear the thought of having a film about cool spacetime phenomena without it all being a heavy-handed metaphor for human feefees. The no-nonsense plot of the Martian is a breath of fresh air in comparison. Don't get me wrong, a good space movie can absolutely reflect on the human condition, and love, and loss and all that. But why can't you let dead cold space simply be dead cold space - why does the wormhole have to be a daddy-loveotron. That's BS by people lacking the imagination to do anything but love stories. That's the same reason why Lem hated the new Solaris movie - because the director and writers were too dumb to understand the astonishing philosophical point of the novel and made a love story out of it.

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#30
RE: My Top 10 Sci-Fi Movies
(June 13, 2016 at 5:42 am)ignoramus Wrote: Agree 100% with Alex. Also didn't mind Gravity for the eye candy even if it wasn't "real life".

Tyson's rant on "Gravity" was fun to watch as well.  Smile
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