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Another Police Shooting
#51
RE: Another Police Shooting
Police without guns to antagonize the populace, what are we to do?
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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#52
RE: Another Police Shooting
(July 17, 2016 at 9:04 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: Police without guns to antagonize the populace, what are we to do?

You call 9-1-1 and ask them to send you a hipster.
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#53
RE: Another Police Shooting
(July 17, 2016 at 9:11 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote:
(July 17, 2016 at 9:04 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: Police without guns to antagonize the populace, what are we to do?

You call 9-1-1 and ask them to send you a hipster.

Would that be a Bobby?
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#54
RE: Another Police Shooting
Bobby Darrin.
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#55
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(July 17, 2016 at 7:44 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote:
(July 17, 2016 at 7:40 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I think it will go farther than that. Like, "Oops, sorry, couldn't find the address" or "We drove by but didn't see a crime in progress" or "That neighborhood is out of our jurisdiction". There may be a rash of early retirements and resignations, requests for desk jobs.  Don't know if this will happen, pessimist in me coming out.

It's like people are trying to drive off good candidates for the job. "Police are scum! They're all dirty, they're all in cohoots, they're all killers!"

People, you are going to get the police force you deserve. Sadly, the rest of us will have to live with your poor judgment.

It's probably the pay that drives off the majority of "good candidates".  Then, ofc...if any remain in the pool willing to do the job, we screen them out in favor of our profiles. Yes, we have the police that we deserve..but not on account of saying mean things......
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#56
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(July 18, 2016 at 8:23 am)Rhythm Wrote:
(July 17, 2016 at 7:44 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: It's like people are trying to drive off good candidates for the job. "Police are scum! They're all dirty, they're all in cohoots, they're all killers!"

People, you are going to get the police force you deserve. Sadly, the rest of us will have to live with your poor judgment.

It's probably the pay that drives off the majority of "good candidates".  Then, ofc...if any remain in the pool willing to do the job, we screen them out in favor of our profiles.  Yes, we have the police that we deserve..but not on account of saying mean things......

Bald assertion on your part.
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#57
RE: Another Police Shooting
Which part of that would you like to object to?  That cops aren't rolling in money, and that it's difficult for police depts to lure in decent candidates..forcing them to lower their standards?  Or that people are regularly screened out on account of things that make us go "wtf?"...like having too high an IQ?

Or that we get what we pay for, not an ounce more..an often a few ounces less?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#58
RE: Another Police Shooting
(July 18, 2016 at 8:44 am)Rhythm Wrote: Which part of that would you like to object to?  That cops aren't rolling in money, and that it's difficult for police depts to lure in decent candidates..forcing them to lower their standards?  Or that people are regularly screened out on account of things that make us go "wtf?"...like having too high an IQ?

Or that we get what we pay for, not an ounce more..an often a few ounces less?

I object to you making claims without support. I don't really expect support, but I will point out when it's absent. 

However, when I point out cops aren't paid enough to risk their lives I see claims that they average ~$100,000/year.
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#59
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100k a year, lol.....as the average.  That's cute.  Whoever gave you that number either flat out bullshitted you..or worked some dept heads into their stats.
(you can use the search tab, btw, to find support for anything I mentioned...it's part of a long running convo on cops we've had on these boards, you don;t even need google for this one)

Here you go, for the next time someone tries to tell you cops are well paid. This one tries to sell the job hard, so you can consider them friendly stats to the "well paid" pov.
http://www.lawenforcementedu.net/salaries/

I;m not going to take 26k for a four year degree, in a job that I might get shot at in. I learned my lesson there, lol. I could better that at a mcdonalds.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#60
RE: Another Police Shooting
(July 18, 2016 at 8:49 am)Rhythm Wrote: 100k a year, lol.....as the average.  That's cute.  Whoever gave you that number either flat out bullshitted you..or worked some dept heads into their stats.
(you can use the search tab, btw, to find support for anything I mentioned...it's part of a long running convo on cops we've had on these boards, you don;t even need google for this one)

Here you go, for the next time someone tries to tell you cops are well paid.  This one tries to sell the job hard, so you can consider them friendly stats to the "well paid" pov.  
http://www.lawenforcementedu.net/salaries/

I;m not going to take 26k for a four year degree, in a job that I might get shot at in.  I learned my lesson there, lol.

And for that we want angels with inhuman emotional control and perfect judgment. Fascinating. 
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