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RE: What God is to the Universe is what your mind is to your body
August 18, 2016 at 3:05 pm
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that the two options above do not represent the full field of possibility. 
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RE: What God is to the Universe is what your mind is to your body
August 18, 2016 at 3:08 pm
(August 18, 2016 at 3:05 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that the two options above do not represent the full field of possibility.
Well then add to the list!
What I'm saying is either way, damage to the brain will interfere with both signal generation or reception.
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RE: What God is to the Universe is what your mind is to your body
August 18, 2016 at 3:12 pm
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That's not what you were saying..it's what you -meant- to say, apparently. No disagreement from me there, either of those two ways. I think Benny might be able to suggest, from his viewpoint, that the -minds- ability to to receive or generate a signal may not -necessarily- be interfered with by damage to the -brain - provided that mind and brain are not the same thing, or necessary to each other. If mind is, in fact, intrinsic to the qm fields, the universe...what have you. The mind may have no trouble generating or receiving a signal, even if some sort of bodily interference or malfunction is detected...the body (or brain) has difficulty -responding- to it.
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RE: What God is to the Universe is what your mind is to your body
August 18, 2016 at 3:15 pm
(August 18, 2016 at 3:12 pm)Rhythm Wrote: That's not what you were saying..it's what you -meant- to say, apparently. No disagreement from me there.
If you could reduced consciousness down to it's most basic necessary component, what would you identify as that component?
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RE: What God is to the Universe is what your mind is to your body
August 18, 2016 at 3:21 pm
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Interaction. There must be some way to be conscious -of- something....for there to be consciousness in the first place. The term, otherwise, has no meaning.
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RE: What God is to the Universe is what your mind is to your body
August 18, 2016 at 4:42 pm
(August 18, 2016 at 3:00 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (August 18, 2016 at 2:58 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: The EM force is part of God's law of universe order. If you say so......but it seems to me like you might have skipped a step on that one. 
Indeed:
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RE: What God is to the Universe is what your mind is to your body
August 18, 2016 at 4:47 pm
What if the universe is a big mind that's actually thinking our thoughts, not we ourselves... man far out Duuuude.
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RE: What God is to the Universe is what your mind is to your body
August 18, 2016 at 5:28 pm
Well hey. It was pointed out when we finally got a 3D image of the visible universe, it did kinda resemble a neural network.
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RE: What God is to the Universe is what your mind is to your body
August 18, 2016 at 5:33 pm
(August 18, 2016 at 5:28 pm)LostLocke Wrote: Well hey. It was pointed out when we finally got a 3D image of the visible universe, it did kinda resemble a neural network.
Galaxies forming a big brain? This is the kind of idea where you regret not being high...
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RE: What God is to the Universe is what your mind is to your body
August 18, 2016 at 6:05 pm
(August 18, 2016 at 1:46 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (August 18, 2016 at 12:27 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Conflating X-ology with X-ogony is a pretty fundamental error in logic, but this is much how these arguments go: "We study the brain and the mind, and stuff happens, so the brain creates (or simply is) mind. So far, that's how it seems to be."
This is a horrible misapplication of concept of evidence.
The fact that brain damage results in mental changes is not evidence of the interlinkage of the two? Am I reading you right? It sounds like you are asking a question about psychology, and not about psychogony. We know that if you change brain function, the qualitative nature of experience changes. What we do not know is at what level the most elemental componenets of mind emerge-- if they emerge at all.
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