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Shouldn't the right to die be a human right?
#41
RE: Shouldn't the right to die be a human right?
(December 14, 2016 at 1:48 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Tricky question.

I do not think taking your own life is an inherent God given right. But since I can't justify it in any other way besides bringing God into the picture, I do think it should be legal. I see it the same way I see prostitution and recreational hardcore drug use. According to God, we do not have the right to harm and mistreat the body and life that was given to us. But this does not hold water if we have separation of Church and state. And thus I think all those things should be legal because you are not directly hurting someone else.

Thank you. I'm absolutely fine with people making choices because of their religious beliefs as long as they understand that the rest of us don't have to follow the same beliefs. This applies to so much even beyond this thread.
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#42
RE: Shouldn't the right to die be a human right?
I'm so sorry to hear about your parents, MH. Sad

If I may ask, what is your plan for end times?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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#43
RE: Shouldn't the right to die be a human right?
(December 14, 2016 at 4:55 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'm so sorry to hear about your parents, MH. Sad

If I may ask, what is your plan for end times?

Thanks for the condolences.

No, you may not know the plan. Sorry.
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#44
RE: Shouldn't the right to die be a human right?
I understand.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#45
RE: Shouldn't the right to die be a human right?
I have what is called an Advance Health Care Directive that details what I require when I am terminally ill, especially if I am in a vegetative state. The only difference would be in the time of my demise, and if I am in a vegetative state, how would I even know?
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#46
RE: Shouldn't the right to die be a human right?
(December 14, 2016 at 4:48 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Suicide should be legal as long as you are determined mentally fit. The death needs to be at your own hands. As long as you can communicate, worst comes to worst, you can stop feeding. 

Euthanasia/assisted suicide is a bit trickier. You are then asking someone else to take or help take your life. I'm not sure I'd want that on the other persons conscious. I'm not convinced that this task should fall on the medical community, even for the supply of overdose medication. I think that this should probably become a legal option with regulations in place and overseen by the state.  

For situations like persistent vegetative states where you can't communicate your wishes, have your wishes declared before hand in a legally binding document, filed with the state. If you don't, think of the position you have put your family or others in to. Do it while your are still able. 

I watched both my parents die from protracted lingering deaths. That was their choice until the very end days, at which time they were wishing for death. By that time they no longer had the ability to take their own lives. Fortunately it came to the point where either could eat and they were not force feed in hospice. I'm determined not to go out that way if possible. i.e. I have a plan for the end times.

I believe that suicide is legal here in the UK. (Someone correct me if I am wrong.)

I also believe that this was a recent change in the law. Before then, if you were found trying to kill yourself and you were stopped in time, you could be charged with attempting suicide and jailed. As you can imagine, this is a pretty terrible outcome for all concerned. The person clearly needs help, not punishment. So I'm glad this is no longer the case.
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#47
RE: Shouldn't the right to die be a human right?
That's great news. We need to have assisted suicide legalized next..
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#48
RE: Shouldn't the right to die be a human right?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/num...es-9434242

Quote:The number of Brits travelling to Dignitas has slowly risen over the past 15 years as public opinion has swung in favour of assisted suicide.

Eight out of 10 people believe the law should allow people to take their own lives, according to a Populus poll for campaign group Dignity in Dying – yet families still risk prosecution to take their loved ones to the Dignitas house on the outskirts of Zurich, Switzerland.

Latest statistics reveal 37 Brits used Dignitas in 2015 – up from 29 in the previous year. High-profile cases include Daniel James, 23, of Worcester, who was the youngest UK person to die at Dignitas in 2010 after being paralysed in a rugby accident.

More than 7,000 people, including 996 Brits, were members of Dignitas in 2015 – but director Silvan Luley says only around 14 per cent will go on to commit suicide.

“For most people it’s about having a choice, an emergency way out should they need it,” he says.

“They want to know they have the choice if things become so bad they wish to end their suffering.

“Without that strategy they feel trapped without a choice and that’s when people hang themselves, throw themselves off the cliffs of Dover or throw themselves in front of trains.”

Five years ago Dignitas won a battle in the European Court of Human Rights which ruled everyone should be allowed to decide the manner and time of their death.
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#49
RE: Shouldn't the right to die be a human right?
I know Dignitas is pushing for the right to kill mentally ill people, this I feel crosses a line having spoken to a number of people contemplating suicide when I worked in a mental health centre.
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#50
RE: Shouldn't the right to die be a human right?
(December 15, 2016 at 9:25 am)Mr Greene Wrote: I know Dignitas is pushing for the right to kill mentally ill people, this I feel crosses a line having spoken to a number of people contemplating suicide when I worked in a mental health centre.

Source?
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