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January 21, 2017 at 2:13 pm
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(January 21, 2017 at 1:56 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Most people wanted Hilary and she lost.
Oh please. She's a robotic grandma with a terrible sense oh humor trying desperately to relate to the new "hip" culture. I mean, have you seen her jokes about Pokémon go? The woman is a disaster, would've been a real shame if she were the first woman president of America, it's not like there aren't better options. Lots of way better charismatic women that can give any man a run for their money.
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January 21, 2017 at 2:32 pm
I really don't think it had anything to do with Hillary being a woman. She was not a popular/likeable candidate for some pretty legitimate reasons. Bernie would have beat trump hands down, and not bc he's a man, but bc he's a much better and more genuine person than Hillary.
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January 21, 2017 at 2:40 pm
There are 500k woman marching on Washington today, and no violence. There are more protesters today than there were attendees at the Inaguration. Sort of like the actual votes, haha.
There are hundreds of "sister" marches happening all over the country AND all over the world! I cannot march, but I'm wearing a pussy hat indoors in solidarity.
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January 21, 2017 at 3:27 pm
Kinda wearing, and not in a good way, that Trump was repeatedly needled prior to the election about accepting the results, and it was the folks unwilling to do so themselves making the demand that we are hearing from now.
Not wanting to hear about growing up, and big boy pants, etc., yet evidencing such a high level of chutzpah at the same time . . . .
I could see me becoming decidedly un-nice about this fucking bullshit. Particularly in regards to that same chutzpah crowd holding Hillary, Podesta, Mook, Brazile, Wasserman-Shultz totally blameless for the rout of their own making.
Just limiting the response to spouting off about the 'big boy pant' thing seems VERY, VERY tepid indeed, and way too much to ask for considering what is really needed.
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January 21, 2017 at 3:56 pm
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(January 21, 2017 at 3:27 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Kinda wearing, and not in a good way, that Trump was repeatedly needled prior to the election about accepting the results, and it was the folks unwilling to do so themselves making the demand that we are hearing from now.
Not wanting to hear about growing up, and big boy pants, etc., yet evidencing such a high level of chutzpah at the same time . . . .
I could see me becoming decidedly un-nice about this fucking bullshit. Particularly in regards to that same chutzpah crowd holding Hillary, Podesta, Mook, Brazile, Wasserman-Shultz totally blameless for the rout of their own making.
Just limiting the response to spouting off about the 'big boy pant' thing seems VERY, VERY tepid indeed, and way too much to ask for considering what is really needed.
False equivalency, plus strawman. No one ever said that all of the American people must accept the results quietly. NO ONE.
The call was always for the opponent to accept the results, which she has, and for a peaceful transfer of power at the top, which there was.
The "common" people on either side were always free to protest whatever the outcome was.
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January 21, 2017 at 5:41 pm
(January 21, 2017 at 2:13 pm)pool the great Wrote: (January 21, 2017 at 1:56 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Most people wanted Hilary and she lost.
Oh please. She's a robotic grandma with a terrible sense oh humor trying desperately to relate to the new "hip" culture. I mean, have you seen her jokes about Pokémon go? The woman is a disaster, would've been a real shame if she were the first woman president of America, it's not like there aren't better options. Lots of way better charismatic women that can give any man a run for their money.
These are among the most ridiculous, stupid and irrelevant complaints about Clinton I've seen. Aside from that, would you say the current president is a funny man? Or charismatic?
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January 21, 2017 at 5:49 pm
(January 21, 2017 at 2:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I really don't think it had anything to do with Hillary being a woman. She was not a popular/likeable candidate for some pretty legitimate reasons. Bernie would have beat trump hands down, and not bc he's a man, but bc he's a much better and more genuine person than Hillary.
You're probably right, but it may have put up an additional barrier of undesirability for certain people. Hillary got more votes, I have to stress that once again, but there are people who would never vote for a woman just as they wouldn't vote for a black man. Don't underestimate the still existing misogyny or racism as contributing factors.
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January 21, 2017 at 7:32 pm
I think it had everything to do with gender. We are not ready for a female president.
If Warren runs in 2020, I bet a zillion dollars the same media smear will happen to her. I have absolutely lost all of my faith in Americans. I'm fucking done.
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January 21, 2017 at 7:38 pm
(January 21, 2017 at 7:32 pm)Mermaid Wrote: I think it had everything to do with gender.
I don't. Hillary was as attractive as the measels. She was the epitome of more of the same. Misogyny probably played a role for some, the classic angry white male, but these would have probably voted for Trump anyway. Also she only lost by American standards. Everywhere else she would have won, having the popular vote and all.
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January 21, 2017 at 9:18 pm
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