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A challenge for any Atheist who been here for a long time!
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RE: A challenge for any Atheist who been here for a long time!
(4th January 2017, 18:04)Rhythm Wrote: I've been here long enough to remember a time when you actually -could- string together coherent thoughts.

I've been here long enough to remember a time when Mystic considered himself agnostic, and actually asked good questions, and pointed out logical reasons to disbelieve.

It would be interesting to find out his thought process (or more likely, his lack of thought process), that caused him to become a believer again. I certainly hope it isn't the flawed arguments he posts here.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#12
RE: A challenge for any Atheist who been here for a long time!
MK, nothing personal man, but you are unable or unwilling to differentiate between reality and woo.
Right now you are probably placed under LittleRik and GC on the crazy scale. Nuff said.
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#13
RE: A challenge for any Atheist who been here for a long time!
In the past I actually read what you wrote since it had some merit. Nowadays you're doing nothing of the sort. I tend to not even read your posts. Not because I dislike you, but because there's nothing of interest there to be found.
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RE: A challenge for any Atheist who been here for a long time!
(4th January 2017, 17:59)MysticKnight Wrote: Present accurate as best as you can the various arguments over the years.

State your refutation to them after you shown my argument as accurately as possible.

I want to see if people do actually digest my arguments.

No mockery please and no strawman either for jokes.

Arguments are not evidence. You seem unable to grasp this. It doesn't matter how many you have, or how good you think they are.

Arguments merely attempt to transfer the truth value between different statements. Evidence is collected from reality, in order to test a falsifiable hypothesis. Your ideas are not falsifiable, or even coherent most of the time.

As it happens, your arguments are mostly special pleading, or just asserting things without support. These have been pointed out endlessly, but you have an attitude that you can't be wrong. Clearly you think if we don't understand and agree, we are at fault. I've seen you become increasingly arrogant in this regard since I've been here. This is not mockery, this is simple obervation and aimed at helping you to develop. More and more, you display a total inability to see things from anyone's point of view who doesn't make the same assumptions about life that you do.

I've explained all this in detail (regarding arguments and evidence) in this video I made a while ago.



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RE: A challenge for any Atheist who been here for a long time!
(4th January 2017, 17:59)MysticKnight Wrote: Present accurate as best as you can the various arguments over the years.

State your refutation to them after you shown my argument as accurately as possible.

I want to see if people do actually digest my arguments.

No mockery please and no strawman either for jokes.

I have been here long enough to remember the time you putted up coherent thought. I even remember your first avatar (Link from LoZ). No, not in your current "state" I will go to debate. There is literally nothing to debate about.

What happened to you?
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#16
RE: A challenge for any Atheist who been here for a long time!
I honestly can not remember any of MK's arguments. They have made that much of an impression on me.
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RE: A challenge for any Atheist who been here for a long time!
(5th January 2017, 07:19)chimp3 Wrote: I honestly can not remember any of MK's arguments. They have made that much of an impression on me.

That would be because you're not long enough here to remember the old MK.
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RE: A challenge for any Atheist who been here for a long time!
(5th January 2017, 07:22)abaris Wrote:
(5th January 2017, 07:19)chimp3 Wrote: I honestly can not remember any of MK's arguments. They have made that much of an impression on me.

That would be because you're not long enough here to remember the old MK.
I responded to one of his posts yesterday.
"Churches are becoming political organizations... It probably will not be long until the churches will divide as sharply upon political, as upon theological questions; and when that day comes, if there are not liberals enough to hold the balance of power, this Government will be destroyed. The liberty of man is not safe in the hands of any church." R. Ingersoll







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RE: A challenge for any Atheist who been here for a long time!
I seem to recall you being somewhat saner when I first joined. Now though, you strike me as having gone waaaaaaay off the deep end.
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#20
RE: A challenge for any Atheist who been here for a long time!
Circular woo that has become progressively more fragmented and incoherent over time.
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