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Poll: How you work that out?
My religion represent God
I take from what religions say
No religion represent God
I wouldn't know
I am not interested
I have no other way to know so I just write what religions say
Nah.
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Do religions represent God?
#81
RE: Do religions represent God?
Yes religions represent the god of that religion as portrayed by that religion, and we only have that much to work with as the only claims about god comes from religions.

Think of it like this LR, if I walk up to you and tell you stories about how smart my daughter is, to you, those stories would represent her unless you meet her yourself. But what if my daughter is different than the stories, or what if I just made it all up? The only information you have to work with is what I give you, and thus your mental image, be it right or wrong is bound by it.

So far we've had no indication of any god's existence outside the claims of various religions, so why should I take your assertion about god's nature outside of religion when there's no proof of god's existence in the first place?
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#82
RE: Do religions represent God?
My Yoga Master - Sri Bugaboo Shrewd Raisin says:

" After attaining enlightenment the wise sage will spend hours of each day arguing with atheists online. This is the true path. A life of charity and self sacrifice is so cliche' "
"Churches are becoming political organizations... It probably will not be long until the churches will divide as sharply upon political, as upon theological questions; and when that day comes, if there are not liberals enough to hold the balance of power, this Government will be destroyed. The liberty of man is not safe in the hands of any church." R. Ingersoll







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#83
RE: Do religions represent God?
Well, I am the official forum prophet, Rik. Your confirming that I was right is only a formality.
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(21st June 2016, 07:31)Homeless Nutter Wrote: When someone is knocked on the head, they may see stars. That doesn't mean we should rely on their testimony, when studying astrophysics...
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#84
RE: Do religions represent God?
(12th January 2017, 07:01)chimp3 Wrote: My Yoga Master - Sri Bugaboo Shrewd Raisin says:

" After attaining enlightenment the wise sage will spend hours of each day arguing with atheists online. This is the true path. A life of charity and self sacrifice is so cliche' "

Now there's a sage who knows his onions.
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(21st June 2016, 07:31)Homeless Nutter Wrote: When someone is knocked on the head, they may see stars. That doesn't mean we should rely on their testimony, when studying astrophysics...
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#85
RE: Do religions represent God?
(11th January 2017, 09:03)Little Rik Wrote:
(11th January 2017, 07:39)Tonus Wrote: My internal knowledge tells me that Rik is a fucking loon.  Must be true!
Well, if Giacomino the elf is your internal knowledge then it must be true. (of course)  Indubitably
How can I argue with that?  Lightbulb

This is awesome. You don't even realize that you just parodied your own point of view. That's hysterical.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#86
RE: Do religions represent God?
(12th January 2017, 08:57)Tonus Wrote:
(11th January 2017, 09:03)Little Rik Wrote: Well, if Giacomino the elf is your internal knowledge then it must be true. (of course)  Indubitably
How can I argue with that?  Lightbulb

This is awesome.  You don't even realize that you just parodied your own point of view.  That's hysterical.


A parody within a parody is double parody and double fun at your expenses Ton.  Indubitably

You never thought of that Ton, did you?  Bird

(12th January 2017, 06:20)Aoi Magi Wrote: Yes religions represent the god of that religion as portrayed by that religion, and we only have that much to work with as the only claims about god comes from religions.

Think of it like this LR, if I walk up to you and tell you stories about how smart my daughter is, to you, those stories would represent her unless you meet her yourself. But what if my daughter is different than the stories, or what if I just made it all up? The only information you have to work with is what I give you, and thus your mental image, be it right or wrong is bound by it.

So far we've had no indication of any god's existence outside the claims of various religions, so why should I take your assertion about god's nature outside of religion when there's no proof of god's existence in the first place?


Wrong again Mag.  Banghead
NDEs are clear evidence that God exist.
If you however disregard this evidence and keep alive your fantasy that God does not exist then you have a problem.
Nothing to do with me.  Smile
I strongly believe that this universe pop up as per magic and nobody run it.    Logic   Giacomino the elf told me so and he is always right. [Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRvtOKG_fwIIiY0AHOxoaj...4KiU6ifufB]

When you came into the world you were crying and the world was laughing - live your life in such a way that when you leave this world, the world is weeping and you are laughing.  Tulsi Das
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#87
RE: Do religions represent God?
(13th January 2017, 07:09)Little Rik Wrote: Wrong again Mag.  Banghead
NDEs are clear evidence that God exist.
If you however disregard this evidence and keep alive your fantasy that God does not exist then you have a problem.
Nothing to do with me.  Smile

An NDE would be evidence for god if all other contending ideas/explanations could be ruled out and that would be the only explanation remaining, so far that isn't the case. So claiming it as a clear evidence of god is quite dishonest.
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#88
RE: Do religions represent God?
(13th January 2017, 07:09)Little Rik Wrote: A parody within a parody is double parody and double fun at your expenses Ton.

So... you parodied yourself on purpose so that you could claim that you tricked me into a "double parody"? This is suspiciously like the way you rationalize your crazy beliefs. Are you from the Inspector Clouseau school of rationalizations? You know-- the one where you make a mistake and claim that you did exactly what you intended to do, no matter how idiotic it makes you look?

PS- your "you never thought of that line" is even more deliciously ironic in this context.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#89
RE: Do religions represent God?
(13th January 2017, 08:58)Tonus Wrote:
(13th January 2017, 07:09)Little Rik Wrote: A parody within a parody is double parody and double fun at your expenses Ton.

So... you parodied yourself on purpose so that you could claim that you tricked me into a "double parody"?  This is suspiciously like the way you rationalize your crazy beliefs.  Are you from the Inspector Clouseau school of rationalizations?  You know-- the one where you make a mistake and claim that you did exactly what you intended to do, no matter how idiotic it makes you look?

PS- your "you never thought of that line" is even more deliciously ironic in this context.


No mistakes Ton.
I can twist the parodies around and around until your head can't cope anymore and if you try to understand is even worse.

Obviously this can only be done to those that live in a world of fantasies.  Wink

(13th January 2017, 08:29)Aoi Magi Wrote:
(13th January 2017, 07:09)Little Rik Wrote: Wrong again Mag.  Banghead
NDEs are clear evidence that God exist.
If you however disregard this evidence and keep alive your fantasy that God does not exist then you have a problem.
Nothing to do with me.  Smile

An NDE would be evidence for god if all other contending ideas/explanations could be ruled out and that would be the only explanation remaining, so far that isn't the case. So claiming it as a clear evidence of god is quite dishonest.


Your logic doesn't make any sense.  Tut Tut
The old saying that make more sense goes.............the ways of the Lord are infinite..........
I strongly believe that this universe pop up as per magic and nobody run it.    Logic   Giacomino the elf told me so and he is always right. [Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRvtOKG_fwIIiY0AHOxoaj...4KiU6ifufB]

When you came into the world you were crying and the world was laughing - live your life in such a way that when you leave this world, the world is weeping and you are laughing.  Tulsi Das
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#90
RE: Do religions represent God?
Explain why it doesn't make sense please.
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