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Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 2:36 pm
This is pretty upsetting to me, although if she does really act like this, perhaps it's best she doesn't have a child
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 2:36 pm
First amendment guaranties her right to a BIBLICAL bitter herb abortion.


Anyone want to amend the constitution to prohibit that ??????????????????


Maybe we should have a poll ?
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 2:37 pm (This post was last modified: January 21, 2017 at 2:38 pm by Alex K.)
The reason is horrible of course, but then again, someone who seriously considers aborting their fetus because of a presidential inauguration doesn't exactly sound like parent material...

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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 3:18 pm
But her kid shouldn't have to suffer the consequences (death) of her being an idiot. A lot of people don't turn out like their parents.
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 3:22 pm
Right, but now we're not talking about anything more than a clump of cells. It's not a kid. She just found out she's pregnant yesterday. Equivocating all abortions to fully formed fetuses is simplistic and problematic.

If I were her, this wouldn't be bothersome. But I am not her. This might be a projection of other, more serious emotions, and ultimately, it is her decision.
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 3:26 pm
(January 21, 2017 at 3:18 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: But her kid shouldn't have to suffer the consequences (death) of her being an idiot. A lot of people don't turn out like their parents.

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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 3:39 pm
Without the biblically assured soul, it is most decidedly not a 'kid'.
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 3:43 pm
(January 21, 2017 at 3:22 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Equivocating all abortions to fully formed fetuses is simplistic and problematic.

I wasn't doing that. I was referring to "kid" as the general term of "her offspring." Like, I am my mom's kid, an infant is his mom's kid, my mom is my grandma's kid, etc. Not an age thing.
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 3:50 pm
(January 21, 2017 at 3:18 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: But her kid shouldn't have to suffer the consequences (death) of her being an idiot. A lot of people don't turn out like their parents.

Good thing there's no kid to die yet.
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RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 3:50 pm (This post was last modified: January 21, 2017 at 5:06 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
Her reasoning, by my lights, is weak and insufficient. But it's her pregnancy, not mine.

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