Can't Wait For The Day This Is True In The U.S.

[Fireball]

It's amusing that an atheist on an atheist forum would say that to a theist on an atheist forum.If I weren't willing to question my beliefs I'd hang out at a Christian site.

Maybe you're hanging out here because it gives you the feelgoodz to minister to the heathens. Maybe you're doing it because you get a laugh out of irritating folks. Maybe you're doing it because you're honestly questioning.

If it is indeed the latter, go back and reread what I wrote. It's very plain and clear. And if you're not that curious, it isn't my problem.

Are you saying he should use his omnipotence to force people to worship him? If not, what is your point regarding omnipotence?

I'm not saying he uses his omnipotence to force people to worship him upon pain of infinite suffering -- your book says that. I'm asking you to explain how you reconcile what the Bible says with what you write here.

This god you worship is alleged to be omnipotent, but finds a simple "goddamn" to be unforgivable? Cry me a river. I, a simple mortal, can easily get over a little name-calling, yet this deity of yours harbors resentment to the point of damning those to hell? It makes no sense -- perfect in mercy, yet devises hells for people over little words.

Can I get me a cast-iron goddamn? Maybe brass plated for extra effect?

[Godscreated]

It' wasn't written to scare people, it was written to warn people that time was growing to a close. Hell doesn't bother Christians, we want be there. Divine inspiration has nothing to do with people not believing, it has everything to do with people who think they know more than Christians about everything, people are reasoning themselves right into hell. This is also taught in then NT, you should read it some time, preferably before it's to late.

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You might as well accept that Christianity is here to stay and that it's not a superstition. Those who chose judgement are not on my list of the intelligent.

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 No it's not silly boy and you need to go back to the sandbox and bury your head, you need time to get your thoughts straight.

GC

Oh, it will likely never be eradicated entirely.

But the numbers will drop to 10% or less.  And there are already growing atheist communities throughout the Middle East so, Islam will likely go that way, too.  But it will take a lot longer.

Judgemental people aren't intelligent? Take a look at virtually ALL religious people.

 The most judgmental people here are some of the atheist, meaning by your suggestion they are not very bright. I know professors from universities, scientist, teachers and many other highly intelligent people who are Christians and so your conclusion fails dramaticly

GC.

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It' wasn't written to scare people, it was written to warn people that time was growing to a close. Hell doesn't bother Christians, we want be there. Divine inspiration has nothing to do with people not believing, it has everything to do with people who think they know more than Christians about everything, people are reasoning themselves right into hell. This is also taught in then NT, you should read it some time, preferably before it's to late.

If some proof were provided that god exists and that the bible is accurate, also that hell exists, I'd be much more receptive.

 I will say the same thing about evolution.

GC

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Just remember this is a sign of the end times a prophecy 2000 years old and coming true before your ever blind eyes.

GC

Just remember, that moronic, self-important snowflakes have been saying this for at least 2000 years. Hasn't happened so far, isn't going to happen now - not in any way that you may imagine. You will die and the world will carry on without you. You're not special - get over yourself. 

 I do not think over highly of myself, I tell it as I see it and if that bothers you and apparently it does, stop reading my posts, problem solved.

GC

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 Just remember this is a sign of the end times a prophecy 2000 years old and coming true before your ever blind eyes.

The United Kingdom has only been in existence for 310 years. Or did Jesus specify the British isles but not Ireland?

 You make no sense, Jesus didn't come for any certain country or to condemn any certain country, He came to save the world. John 3:16.

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We've been over the verses you are thinking about for years and it' been explained, why can't you learn, I thought atheist were suppose to be smart, guess I'm wrong.

GC

You're wrong.  Just not about atheists being smart.

 Guess what dummy, that wasn't the verses that I was speaking of, if you had read all the post you might have been able to figure this out.

GC

[Thumpalumpacus]

Oh, it will likely never be eradicated entirely.

But the numbers will drop to 10% or less.  And there are already growing atheist communities throughout the Middle East so, Islam will likely go that way, too.  But it will take a lot longer.

Judgemental people aren't intelligent? Take a look at virtually ALL religious people.

 The most judgmental people here are some of the atheist, meaning by your suggestion they are not very bright. I know professors from universities, scientist, teachers and many other highly intelligent people who are Christians and so your conclusion fails dramaticly

GC.

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 I will say the same thing about evolution.

GC

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Just remember, that moronic, self-important snowflakes have been saying this for at least 2000 years. Hasn't happened so far, isn't going to happen now - not in any way that you may imagine. You will die and the world will carry on without you. You're not special - get over yourself. 

 I do not think over highly of myself, I tell it as I see it and if that bothers you and apparently it does, stop reading my posts, problem solved.

GC

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The United Kingdom has only been in existence for 310 years. Or did Jesus specify the British isles but not Ireland?

 You make no sense, Jesus didn't come for any certain country or to condemn any certain country, He came to save the world. John 3:16.

GC

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You're wrong.  Just not about atheists being smart.

 Guess what dummy, that wasn't the verses that I was speaking of, if you had read all the post you might have been able to figure this out.

GC

[Wyrd of Gawd]

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Oh, it will likely never be eradicated entirely.

But the numbers will drop to 10% or less.  And there are already growing atheist communities throughout the Middle East so, Islam will likely go that way, too.  But it will take a lot longer.

Judgemental people aren't intelligent? Take a look at virtually ALL religious people.

 The most judgmental people here are some of the atheist, meaning by your suggestion they are not very bright. I know professors from universities, scientist, teachers and many other highly intelligent people who are Christians and so your conclusion fails dramaticly

GC.

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 I will say the same thing about evolution.

GC

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Just remember, that moronic, self-important snowflakes have been saying this for at least 2000 years. Hasn't happened so far, isn't going to happen now - not in any way that you may imagine. You will die and the world will carry on without you. You're not special - get over yourself. 

 I do not think over highly of myself, I tell it as I see it and if that bothers you and apparently it does, stop reading my posts, problem solved.

GC

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The United Kingdom has only been in existence for 310 years. Or did Jesus specify the British isles but not Ireland?

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 You make no sense, Jesus didn't come for any certain country or to condemn any certain country, He came to save the world. John 3:16.

GC

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You're wrong.  Just not about atheists being smart.

 Guess what dummy, that wasn't the verses that I was speaking of, if you had read all the post you might have been able to figure this out.

GC

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[Pat Mustard]

I'd say muslims world wide are on average less natively stupid than the christians in this country.

Certainly American Muslims are more reasonable, on average, than American Christian fundamentalists.

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http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...opulation/

Yes, especially in Africa and South America. Especially not in Europe, Asia, and North America. Guess where most of us live?

I've actually gone to the bother of reading the article Beta Eunuch cited. It is actually a whole mess of baseless speculation citing nameless "experts" to get agreement with its POV, neglecting to take local issues into account (eg in most Asian muslin countries openly announcing your atheism gets you killed, either by the state or a state condoned lynch mob), and definitely ignoring demograhpic trends such as the fact that developing nations are experiencing rapid contractions in birth rates swiftly bringing them in line with developed countries for population growth.

The article, from a statistical point of view is worthless, and is well below Pews usual standards. I wonder which religitard group paid for it?

[Harry Nevis]

It's amusing that an atheist on an atheist forum would say that to a theist on an atheist forum.If I weren't willing to question my beliefs I'd hang out at a Christian site.

You are not willing to question your belief.   You are here to indulge in the infantile delights of that brain dead smuggness you and your ilk have adopted to armor yourselves against the complexity and uncertainties of reality that strike fear into your feeble heart, as well as the proven cognitive processes to tackle those that you resent for being so far beyond the grasp your feeble mind.

And your feeble mind can't grasp that atheism is not a belief.

[John V]

I've actually gone to the bother of reading the article Beta Eunuch cited. It is actually a whole mess of baseless speculation citing nameless "experts" to get agreement with its POV, neglecting to take local issues into account (eg in most Asian muslin countries openly announcing your atheism gets you killed, either by the state or a state condoned lynch mob), and definitely ignoring demograhpic trends such as the fact that developing nations are experiencing rapid contractions in birth rates swiftly bringing them in line with developed countries for population growth.

The article, from a statistical point of view is worthless, and is well below Pews usual standards. I wonder which religitard group paid for it?

Did you get to the end, where they noted that the article was based on a study published in a peer-reviewed journal and gave a link to the journal?

https://www.demographic-research.org/Volumes/Vol32/27/

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Maybe you're hanging out here because it gives you the feelgoodz to minister to the heathens. Maybe you're doing it because you get a laugh out of irritating folks. Maybe you're doing it because you're honestly questioning.

At this point I generally don't question my beliefs, as I've been doing this 20 years and I'm not seeing anything here that I haven't previously seen and considered. But, yes, I did question my beliefs at the beginning, and would do so now if I saw a good argument. For example, I was concerned way back when someone gave a list of supposed parallels between Bacchus and Jesus. When I researched it, I found it was BS. When pretty much the same list came out regarding Mithra, I figured it was bunk too, and it was. I yawned more recently when it was changed to Osiris.

I'm not saying he uses his omnipotence to force people to worship him upon pain of infinite suffering -- your book says that.

I'm asking you to explain how you reconcile what the Bible says with what you write here.

This god you worship is alleged to be omnipotent, but finds a simple "goddamn" to be unforgivable?

I've said worse than that toward God, even as a Christian, and I'm forgiven, so I have to disagree with your position.

[Mister Agenda]

At this point I generally don't question my beliefs, as I've been doing this 20 years and I'm not seeing anything here that I haven't previously seen and considered. But, yes, I did question my beliefs at the beginning, and would do so now if I saw a good argument. For example, I was concerned way back when someone gave a list of supposed parallels between Bacchus and Jesus. When I researched it, I found it was BS. When pretty much the same list came out regarding Mithra, I figured it was bunk too, and it was. I yawned more recently when it was changed to Osiris.

Very appropriate reaction. That's some grade-Z scholarship conspiracy theory level connection-seeking; glad you saw through it.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I've said worse than that toward God, even as a Christian, and I'm forgiven, so I have to disagree with your position.

How did you find out you were forgiven? Did his secretary Betty send you a memo?

[Godscreated]

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 The most judgmental people here are some of the atheist, meaning by your suggestion they are not very bright. I know professors from universities, scientist, teachers and many other highly intelligent people who are Christians and so your conclusion fails dramaticly

GC.

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 I will say the same thing about evolution.

GC

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 I do not think over highly of myself, I tell it as I see it and if that bothers you and apparently it does, stop reading my posts, problem solved.

GC

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 Guess what dummy, that wasn't the verses that I was speaking of, if you had read all the post you might have been able to figure this out.

GC

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