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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 3, 2015 at 3:29 pm
It's pretty hard to restart a Twitter trend. By hard, I mean impossible. Someone tweeted #blacklivesmatter, it trended worldwide, and that's a done deal.
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 3, 2015 at 3:41 pm
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 3, 2015 at 3:42 pm
There are clear implications there, Vic.
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 3, 2015 at 3:45 pm
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 3, 2015 at 3:49 pm
(September 2, 2015 at 11:17 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: (September 2, 2015 at 9:56 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: We should ignore the plight of the people the racism is largely directed at? Are you on drugs?
I neither said nor meant that.
The problem with debating you is that you have implied meaning in your words and then say "I didn't mean that" - That's a dishonest technique and you should know words have effects on people even if you don't realize it.
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 3, 2015 at 3:51 pm
(September 2, 2015 at 12:01 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: (September 1, 2015 at 8:25 pm)abaris Wrote: Got any numbers? Statistics? Anything?
Not that I agree with the general tone of the OP's original post because I don't, but statistically speaking yes there is a lot of data backing up some of his claims. To begin with most violent crime is intraracial. White violent criminals tend to prey on white victims and black violent criminals tend to prey on black victims. The US population is about 72.5% white and about 12.5% black yet the number of both violent crime victims and offenders are pretty close to even. If you break the numbers down you'll find that blacks are 5 to 6 times more likely than whites to be both a victim and an offender of a violet crime. If you would like to do your own analysis of the numbers the data is available here: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s
Nothing said is false but why is any of it relevant? Most crimes are intraracial because people are more likely to be close and hang with people who are of the same race, and in most countries there's a higher ethnic group in each village, city, region, etc - So I'm sure there's areas in New York (random example) where most people are black, and areas where most people are white, etc - Obviously this results in higher intraracial crime not to mention that many serious crimes are mostly committed against family relatives, close friends, etc - None of that really has any relevance against Blacklivesmatter.
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 3, 2015 at 3:56 pm
(September 1, 2015 at 7:58 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Not sure if anyone has done a thread on this yet but if they have I apologise, I just wanted to share my opinion on this.
The 'black lives matter' campaign is an absolute joke. This group of people often protest when black people are killed, for whatever reason that may be.
However, based on their actions, I don't think they truly believe that black lives matter. Black lives only seem to matter when it is a white person killing a black person. Or better yet, a white cop, killing a black criminal. It is only with this scenario that they seem to become outraged and speak out or in some cases protest and riot. It doesn't matter to them when a little black girl gets shot while doing her homework.... because it wasn't a white guy. The problem, I believe, lies with race baiters who teach these people that they are victims and oppressed and to blame everything on the white man and take no personal responsibility. You see it all too often on the news, some black guy killed by police after shooting at them and then their mother or their sister will show up and blame everyone else but the 'victim'.
The truth is that there is far more black on black crime than there is white on black crime. And more black on white crime. But these people either are completely ignorant of this or simply don't care, and I don't know which is worse. #Blacklivesmatter can go fuck themselves. All lives matter.
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 3, 2015 at 4:32 pm
Uhhhhh... what??
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 3, 2015 at 5:32 pm
(September 3, 2015 at 3:51 pm)Dystopia Wrote: (September 2, 2015 at 12:01 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: Not that I agree with the general tone of the OP's original post because I don't, but statistically speaking yes there is a lot of data backing up some of his claims. To begin with most violent crime is intraracial. White violent criminals tend to prey on white victims and black violent criminals tend to prey on black victims. The US population is about 72.5% white and about 12.5% black yet the number of both violent crime victims and offenders are pretty close to even. If you break the numbers down you'll find that blacks are 5 to 6 times more likely than whites to be both a victim and an offender of a violet crime. If you would like to do your own analysis of the numbers the data is available here: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s
Nothing said is false but why is any of it relevant? Most crimes are intraracial because people are more likely to be close and hang with people who are of the same race, and in most countries there's a higher ethnic group in each village, city, region, etc - So I'm sure there's areas in New York (random example) where most people are black, and areas where most people are white, etc - Obviously this results in higher intraracial crime not to mention that many serious crimes are mostly committed against family relatives, close friends, etc - None of that really has any relevance against Blacklivesmatter.
I don't think these numbers have any relevance to the Blacklivesmatter movement. I think Blacklivesmatter is specific in that they are protesting police violence against blacks which is disproportional to their demographic. However the OP made a claim,
(September 1, 2015 at 7:58 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: The truth is that there is far more black on black crime than there is white on black crime. And more black on white crime.
and Abaris asked if there was any data to back it up.
(September 1, 2015 at 8:25 pm)abaris Wrote: Got any numbers? Statistics? Anything?
I replied to Abaris that yes there was.
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RE: #Blacklivesmat
September 4, 2015 at 12:45 pm
(September 3, 2015 at 3:49 pm)Dystopia Wrote: The problem with debating you is that you have implied meaning in your words and then say "I didn't mean that" - That's a dishonest technique and you should know words have effects on people even if you don't realize it.
All words have implied meaning, I'm not being dishonest by correcting you on the meaning of my words. My words, don't take on the meaning you think they mean, just because you think them.
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