But that's the thing. So many Americans do have a love affair with their guns that I really believe they aren't going anywhere any time soon. If for no other reason as it's just simply apart if American culture. Hell my dad's been a gun collector most of his adult life. And there's many more just like him.

(September 6, 2015 at 9:02 pm)brian1570 Wrote: New member. Curious as to how many of y'all own? ...

I see what you are up to!  You are wanting us all to list our guns, to make them easier to confiscate!  You liberal commie pinko!

Combine that love of guns with the perceived mindset - right or wrong - of "Obommer wants to steal mah guns! Ah needs to git me some guns to defend mah guns!" and you have either a massive tragedy or an Adam Sandler romcom waiting to happen. I'm sure nobody wants either.

(September 7, 2015 at 11:04 am)Stimbo Wrote: Combine that love of guns with the perceived mindset - right or wrong - of "Obommer wants to steal mah guns! Ah needs to git me some guns to defend mah guns!" and you have either a massive tragedy or an Adam Sandler romcom waiting to happen. I'm sure nobody wants either.

Yeah my pops is like that and I can't stand it. I'm slowly breaking him of the stereotype. But now he wants more guns so more of the family can enjoy going shooting. I have brothers and sisters with nieces and nephews that all want to learn to shoot and hunt.

(September 7, 2015 at 8:07 am)Brian37 Wrote: That is the problem. "Love". Having an emotional attachmentment to an object is unhealthy when it clouds your judgment to the point of ignoring a problem.

Please explain how my judgment has been clouded.

(September 7, 2015 at 7:00 am)Napoléon Wrote:

(September 7, 2015 at 2:14 am)Godschild Wrote: I just can't see another country wanting to try such a foolish move as to try a ground attack of this country.

This is how bat shit insane you 'gun nuts' are, you think another country isn't going to go to war with you, not because you have the most advanced and powerful military in the world, but because your citizens are armed with guns.

 In the past a few tried and failed, we are even better armed now and this i for you a nuclear war is out of the question taking a country that's a nuclear waste land wouldn't be productive.

GC

(September 7, 2015 at 10:58 am)Pyrrho Wrote:

(September 6, 2015 at 9:02 pm)brian1570 Wrote: New member. Curious as to how many of y'all own? ...

I see what you are up to!  You are wanting us all to list our guns, to make them easier to confiscate!  You liberal commie pinko!

you caught me! obamma is sending meh to all teh forumz to infiltrate



in other news, check out this fucking emoji!!

(September 7, 2015 at 1:40 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(September 7, 2015 at 7:00 am)Napoléon Wrote: This is how bat shit insane you 'gun nuts' are, you think another country isn't going to go to war with you, not because you have the most advanced and powerful military in the world, but because your citizens are armed with guns.

 In the past a few tried and failed, we are even better armed now and this i for you a nuclear war is out of the question taking a country that's a nuclear waste land wouldn't be productive.

GC

Could you give one example of an armed invasion of the US which was stopped by an armed rabble, G-C?

(September 7, 2015 at 1:40 pm)Godschild Wrote:  In the past a few tried and failed, we are even better armed now and this i for you a nuclear war is out of the question taking a country that's a nuclear waste land wouldn't be productive.

(September 6, 2015 at 10:20 pm)brian1570 Wrote:

(September 6, 2015 at 10:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Actually when it was written it referred to the state militias...a phrase which oddly is still there but gun nuts seem unable to read.  Probably learned that kind of cherry-picking from their fucking bibles!


Granted they were talking about a musket and a bayonet not an assault rifle.

Yes the 2a gets misunderstood allllll the time down here in the south. But the musket and bayonet thing....that was of the time period. So that was equal to what the military had. So to me it only makes sense for the most part what the military carries, we can carry. And yes fully auto firearms are legal though the process to acquire them is hellacious.

It is precisely what gun nutters think is the purpose of the 2nd amendment which concerns me.

We needed a militia when the standing army was non-existent or insufficient.  It was always expected to take commands the same as the military from a lawfully elected government.

But gun nutters talk of the 2A as if its purpose were to allow citizens to overthrow the government if it got out of line.  This is so absurd on so many levels.  So rather than accept the result of a lawful election, each individual is given a veto power in the form of a gun?  Crazy.  And how exactly are they expected to overthrow the government?  Just start shooting police, service men and elected officials?  Clearly not a rational justification for guns and I'm against arming anyone who thinks like this.