(September 17, 2015 at 12:52 pm)Divinity Wrote: God didn't create those things specifically.  They all evolved.  I don't think god is omniscient or omnipotent or omnipresent for that matter.  When god created the first single cell organism, she didn't know what would come out of it or if anything would come out of it at all.  She wanted to see what would come out of it.  I'm sure we weren't the only experiment.  I'm sure many failed.  

I know most Christians think that it's all a result of sin.  But that's really only an assumption of a bunch of people from an age before they knew fucking anything about germs.

Why do you believe this?

(September 17, 2015 at 12:39 pm)Lek Wrote:

(September 17, 2015 at 12:55 am)Stimbo Wrote: Did you not notice the title, Lek? There is one in the series called "The origin of the Universe made easy", but it's not this one because you were stuck on the wrong idea of life popping out of nothing. Now you're leaping Dolphinetically into the Universe popping out of nothing. Please make up your mind what you want to discuss.

Sorry Stimbo, but threads evolve.  Shuffle and I were discussing the existence of anything at all.

I agree. However I posted the video (bonus points for actually watching it) in direct response to the assertion that, in 'atheistic views': "either natural "stuff" (for lack of a better word) had to pop out of nothing or else it was never created and has always existed, in some manner, in infinity." The video directly addresses that point. If you want to talk cosmology, try this:

(September 17, 2015 at 12:02 pm)Godschild Wrote: ...you weren't there to see anything happening...

I was.

(September 16, 2015 at 11:42 am)Godschild Wrote:

(September 15, 2015 at 9:41 pm)Shuffle Wrote: You could ask the same, and anyone with half a brain would know the answer. It is all about mutation and natural selection. If there is a sudden environmental pressure for a certain herbivorous species to start eating meat, then whichever individual or group of that species is going to survive better than the others.

For example, there is a disease that wipes out all the plants in an area, and there is a species of herbovores there. Whichever animal has the sharpest teeth, the longest digestive track, the strongest stomach acid, and the best enzymes for digesting meat will survive and produce more than the animals that don't. His/her babies will have the same carnivorous traits, and their babies will, and so on and so on.

The herbivores would die off before anything like that could take place, no food no life, besides that's all speculation, you have no evidence.

GC

We have museums full of evidence, dummy.  You're the one with the fairy tales.

(September 17, 2015 at 12:30 pm)robvalue Wrote: God presumably knew the bacteria would turn evil though, and this would be as a direct consequence of fruit consumption.

Clearly, he wanted this to happen. Otherwise he would not be so stupid as to put this fruit exactly where he knew they would eat it.

What a ludicrous story. This is like a gunman claiming innocence, and blaming the gun for his murders.

 You're being to sound quite ignorant, I use to think you were somewhat smart.

GC

(September 17, 2015 at 12:52 pm)Aroura Wrote:

(September 17, 2015 at 12:02 pm)Godschild Wrote:  There are no fossils point to evolution and you weren't there to see anything happening, there is no genetic evidence for evolution, germs evolving in labs, that's not natural, by the what did they turn into, snake, worm, deer, elephant, maybe a man. The small changes found were nothing more than an adaptation to the environment, they still remain the same animal that could breed with the ones who did not adapt nor needed to. By the way the unintelligent one is the one who can't spell.... well you know what I mean.

GC

™ True Christian.  Someone kindly requests you don't post in his thread anymore.  You agree, and say you will enjoy the peace, but then you continue post shit tons more in his thread.
Congratz!  You win the king asshat of the forum award!

 No he said he wasn't going to answer my posts anymore, even if I did respond to his, so who's the dummy, me thinks you.

GC

(September 17, 2015 at 12:36 pm)Lek Wrote:

(September 17, 2015 at 12:42 am)Shuffle Wrote: Cosmology is not the same as biology, you idiot.

And yes, according to the Conservation of Mass and Energy, matter is eternal.

Okay.  I'll insert "universe" for "cosmos".  Thanks for answering my question as I wondered what you thought about that.  It's tough for me to consider the material world as never having a beginning.  It seems to me to be a supernatural quality.  From your point of view, there is really no purpose to the existence of the universe.  I can't get into that, but to each his own.

The title of the video is "Origin of LIFE Made Easy," NOT the, "Origin of the UNIVERSE Made Easy."

What bothers you about a unpurposeful universe, anyway? And exactly why are we talking about the universe, again????!!!!

(September 17, 2015 at 7:51 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(September 16, 2015 at 11:42 am)Godschild Wrote: The herbivores would die off before anything like that could take place, no food no life, besides that's all speculation, you have no evidence.

GC

We have museums full of evidence, dummy.  You're the one with the fairy tales.

 There are museums with a lot of fossilized bone and there are a lot of creatures in museums that are complete and yet only a few fossilized bone fragments of that creature have ever been found. So who's building the fairy tale. Same goes with what evolutionist call early homo, I just watched a PBS show on early homo and the main evolutionist said there wasn't enough fossilized bone fragments to hardly fill a shoe box, again who's building the fairy tale.

GC

(September 16, 2015 at 8:45 pm)Shuffle Wrote:

(September 16, 2015 at 11:45 am)Godschild Wrote: God has never done anything wrong. I do not find it strange that you have the low mentality to blame wrongs on something like fruit.

GC, I don't know what to say. The time I have spent trying to have discussions with you have been the most wasteful, unproductive times in my life. It is so sad to see a fellow human so deluded they can act the way you do. I don't want to continue any more discussions with you, I ASK YOU NEVER TO POST ON MY THREADS AGAIN. You are either a poe, or the most deluded person I have ever had the disservice of talking to. If you do post, then I will not respond.

So who's the dummy, me thinks you.