(November 11, 2010 at 3:47 pm)padraic Wrote: Plus ca change ,plus c'est la meme chose.

You never fail to come up with something interesting, Pad

(November 11, 2010 at 3:50 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote:

(November 11, 2010 at 3:47 pm)padraic Wrote: Plus ca change ,plus c'est la meme chose.

You never fail to come up with something interesting, Pad

How kind,but it's not mine, it's just a French adage, roughly, "the more things change,the more they stay the same".

(November 12, 2010 at 4:01 am)padraic Wrote: How kind,but it's not mine, it's just a French adage, roughly, "the more things change,the more they stay the same".

It was just a convenient part of the whole post to quote - I knew what it was. I meant the entire posting and all the information you provided.

(November 11, 2010 at 7:04 am)Tiberius Wrote: White power! I mean...pride

In all seriousness, I agree with you completely. Apparently when the majority feel the need to express pride, it makes them a bunch of bigots. This fact about society has always confused me.

We could do that (and it wouldn't be racist), or we could forget about the whole "pride" thing and just celebrate humanity, and all of history.

As Morgan Freeman said, "I don't want a Black History Month. Black History is American History".

Exactly! It's a deliberate class/national/cultural division trap when it gets right down to it. If one group "marches to show how proud and in your face" they can be, then another group in compelled to do the same thing and vise versa and its ridiculous when there's no need for either group to be doing anything like that to begin with.

Instead of "pride" marches, surely a better way to prove to the world that -insert cause or label here- is superior to -insert opposing cause or label here- is by making the effort to be a more considerate and decent person within yourself and encourage others to do the same throughout your life and with people you meet, and not in some 4 hour march and drinking session. Right?

(November 11, 2010 at 7:33 am)joshgold17 Wrote: so in 1960s america when white people got treated alot better had more rights and black people got treated worse and had less rights,would you say it would be ok if white people have a white pride march even though they were the majority and had more rights.

So again, I ask you whether only perceived and downtrodded minorities -in your opinion- are allowed to feel proud of their roots and lifestyle without their "pride" being considered as a gross social tabboo, like the way we now perceive the words "white pride".

(November 12, 2010 at 7:58 am)Cerrone Wrote: Exactly! It's a deliberate class/national/cultural division trap when it gets right down to it. If one group "marches to show how proud and in your face" they can be, then another group in compelled to do the same thing and vise versa and its ridiculous when there's no need for either group to be doing anything like that to begin with.

Instead of "pride" marches, surely a better way to prove to the world that -insert cause or label here- is superior to -insert opposing cause or label here- is by making the effort to be a more considerate and decent person within yourself and encourage others to do the same throughout your life and with people you meet, and not in some 4 hour march and drinking session. Right?

B-but any ethnic or cultural group wouldn't be able to rub in white guilt or feed off how superior they are!

Won't somebody please think of their egos!!11!!

The person who believes that a guy is asexual until that guy sticks his dick in everything is an idiot.

/thread

Quote:joshgold17:so why do you think there were and still are gay pride marches other than to celebrate sexuality.

...to celebrate "Goofyism" as was displayed in this gay pride march...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5lnNQzZ1hA



Welcome. Enjoy your stay.

(November 13, 2010 at 4:30 am)lrh9 Wrote: The person who believes that a guy is asexual until that guy sticks his dick in everything is an idiot.

/thread

rofl get laid much?

(November 12, 2010 at 7:58 am)Cerrone Wrote:

(November 11, 2010 at 7:04 am)Tiberius Wrote: White power! I mean...pride

In all seriousness, I agree with you completely. Apparently when the majority feel the need to express pride, it makes them a bunch of bigots. This fact about society has always confused me.

We could do that (and it wouldn't be racist), or we could forget about the whole "pride" thing and just celebrate humanity, and all of history.

As Morgan Freeman said, "I don't want a Black History Month. Black History is American History".

Exactly! It's a deliberate class/national/cultural division trap when it gets right down to it. If one group "marches to show how proud and in your face" they can be, then another group in compelled to do the same thing and vise versa and its ridiculous when there's no need for either group to be doing anything like that to begin with.

Instead of "pride" marches, surely a better way to prove to the world that -insert cause or label here- is superior to -insert opposing cause or label here- is by making the effort to be a more considerate and decent person within yourself and encourage others to do the same throughout your life and with people you meet, and not in some 4 hour march and drinking session. Right?

(November 11, 2010 at 7:33 am)joshgold17 Wrote: so in 1960s america when white people got treated alot better had more rights and black people got treated worse and had less rights,would you say it would be ok if white people have a white pride march even though they were the majority and had more rights.

So again, I ask you whether only perceived and downtrodded minorities -in your opinion- are allowed to feel proud of their roots and lifestyle without their "pride" being considered as a gross social tabboo, like the way we now perceive the words "white pride".

well are black,gay and even women treated equally as white hetrosexual men in society

(November 16, 2010 at 8:39 pm)joshgold17 Wrote: well are black,gay and even women treated equally as white hetrosexual men in society

You are always going to get people trying to treat people unfairly, and that goes both ways with people treating white males unequally as well, however as a society I believe we have come to a point where everyone is given equal opportunity and chance. But we run the risk of going to far the other way by pushing this equality and fairness issue to far, to the point where positive discrimination of groups becomes the issue we face which isn't progress at all, it's a step back. As soon as people get over this idea of labelling and monitoring groups to make sure they are being treated equally then we will actually see equality.