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#31
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Shit, tech problems. Ignore.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#32
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Welcome. I'm eager to ask you if you hold your theistic beliefs with as much agnosticism as I do my atheism. I'll go check to see if you have started any other threads yet. But make yourself to home.


Oh and I meant to ask if you intended to spell out what a "reformed protestant" is in the sense you're using the words.
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#33
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Welcome, RoadRunner.
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#34
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(September 29, 2015 at 1:02 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Hello,

I am a reformed (protestant) Christian, and I'm interested in discussion about theology, science, and history (history being a more recent and a weaker area of study for me).  I reviewed a few other forums, where I didn't feel, that this would happen, and decided that there might be a place for me here.  Bad arguments drive me crazy; even if I agree with the conclusion, and my goal is to hopefully refine arguments on both sides in the search for truth.  I want to clear up misconceptions and strawmen from others and in my own assertions. 

If I'm honest, I'm not very impressed; with the leaders of the new atheist movement.  Many argument may have appeal on the surface, but there is little substance when investigating deeper.  Further my experience with a number of militant atheist hasn't been very positive either, or encouraging towards thoughtful discussion.  I'm hoping to change that here. 

A little background on myself.  When I was a child, I went to church with my grandparents (my parents where never very religious).  As I became older I was given the choice to attend, and decided not to.  Then in my later teens, I was convinced by my cousin to attend the youth group at the same church.  It was fun, it a good group of people, and I liked the girls who attended Big Grin .  At this point, I had belief in God, and the history, but would not consider myself a Christian.  Through college, I had moments of conviction, but was for the most part not active in any way with Christianity.  This also continued, as I moved away, and back again over a course of about 6-7 years.  During a time, when I was about 23-24 years old, I can't explain why, but I started watching some late night televangelist.  One (who is largely heretical and primarily teaches the prosperity gospel) had a message one night that spoke to me.  From there I committed myself to God as Lord, and immediately started gaining interest in scripture and Christian speakers.  It's difficult to explain to others, but I can clearly pinpoint the change within myself.  Especially early on, and through much of my journey, this has been apart from the Church, and without any peer pressure.

I am an Electrical Engineer, who programs, builds, and troubleshoots machine controls.  I am very analytical (and realize this sometimes annoys people), and I'm familiar with logic.  I apologize for the long intro, but wanted people to know where I'm coming from and any expectations.

Welcome! I hope you find the thoughtful dialogue you are looking for here. Learn to ignore the rude/angry ones and you'll see that there are people here who are respectful and open to discussion. Smile
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#35
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I'll wait for other threads to get into heavy stuff Smile
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#36
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(September 29, 2015 at 7:59 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Welcome! I hope you find the thoughtful dialogue you are looking for here. Learn to ignore the rude/angry ones and you'll see that there are people here who are respectful and open to discussion. Smile
Stop it Mom. You're ruining it for the rest of us. Geez. hehe
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#37
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You listen to your mother young man! Don't make me take my belt off again! Go to your room.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#38
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Welcome! Former reformed church member here, and a newbie myself.

I have no proof against god (who does?), but I have plenty of reason to think that god as I was taught to view him is extremely unlikely at best, and not very like the majority of what you actually see in the bible.
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#39
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I not only don't have any proof that no god exists (including yours), I also truly do not prefer that you drop your belief. Just isn't any of my business really. Besides until we have a common definition of god our disagreements are likely to be owing to this. I know of theists I find interesting and whose opinions I respect. Why would I want them to change what is working for them so well?
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#40
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Hello, visitor! Welcome
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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