(December 4, 2015 at 8:15 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(December 4, 2015 at 7:59 am)KUSA Wrote: What federal laws do you propose that are not currently in place?

Bans on ALL spray weapons and bans on big clips. 7 day waiting period for all other guns. Mandatory psychological evaluation. Bans on online gun sales. Close gunshow loophole. Traceable ammo and limits on amount of ammo. Liability laws for injuries or death resulting from use of the gun.  Mandatory stress training, meaning KNOWING how to use a gun under stress. Licence review like drivers licence. Mandatory viewing of ME exams of those who are victims of gun death. Limits on amounts of guns makeres can make per year.

Now again, nothing in those words says "take away all guns".

Define "spray weapon".

Knock it off, not going to play word games with you.

It's not a word game. I'm not familiar with that term. The only spray weapon I can think of is a water gun. Or do you mean fully automatic firearms? Or perhaps semi automatic firearms?

(December 4, 2015 at 8:15 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(December 4, 2015 at 7:59 am)KUSA Wrote: What federal laws do you propose that are not currently in place?

Bans on ALL spray weapons and bans on big clips. 7 day waiting period for all other guns. Mandatory psychological evaluation. Bans on online gun sales. Close gunshow loophole. Liability laws for injuries or death resulting from use of the gun.  Mandatory stress training, meaning KNOWING how to use a gun under stress. Licence review like drivers licence. Mandatory viewing of ME exams of those who are victims of gun death. Limits on amounts of guns makeres can make per year.

Now again, nothing in those words says "take away all guns".

What evidence do you have that any of those measures will reduce overall violent crime? You are aware the the guns used in San Ben were already illegal?

Clarification: purchesd legally but illegally modified to be fully auto and accept large magazines.

Ok I see what a spray weapon is.

(December 4, 2015 at 8:24 am)Brian37 Wrote: Knock it off, not going to play word games with you.

I honestly don't understand your indignation here, KUSA's inquiry was completely fair. 'Spray weapon' is not a commonly used designation for any particular subset of firearms. I would guess that you're talking about a fully automatic weapon. If that's the case, why didn't you just say so. In no way was KUSA's question related to times when people consult a dictionary and reference the 8th definition in order to deliberately obfuscate an argument.

Google 'spray weapon'. You'll find a shitload of links for pepper spray, bear spray, pesticide and paint spray guns, etc. If the point of your commentary is to be understood and make a point, you have a funny way of showing it sometimes.

(December 4, 2015 at 8:58 am)KUSA Wrote: It's not a word game. I'm not familiar with that term. The only spray weapon I can think of is a water gun. Or do you mean fully automatic firearms? Or perhaps semi automatic firearms?

Bullshit, you know damned well what types of firearms I mean. You are playing stupid because you want to protect the status quo. Not going to play word games with you.

(December 4, 2015 at 9:21 am)Cato Wrote:

(December 4, 2015 at 8:24 am)Brian37 Wrote: Knock it off, not going to play word games with you.

I honestly don't understand your indignation here, KUSA's inquiry was completely fair. 'Spray weapon' is not a commonly used designation for any particular subset of firearms. I would guess that you're talking about a fully automatic weapon. If that's the case, why didn't you just say so. In no way was KUSA's question related to times when people consult a dictionary and reference the 8th definition in order to deliberately obfuscate an argument.

Google 'spray weapon'. You'll find a shitload of links for pepper spray, bear spray, pesticide and paint spray guns, etc. If the point of your commentary is to be understood and make a point, you have a funny way of showing it sometimes.

He is trying to suck me into the diff between auto and semi, doesn't matter because both can have the capacity to high and quick volume output. It is a common dodge.

(December 4, 2015 at 8:59 am)ChadWooters Wrote:

(December 4, 2015 at 8:15 am)Brian37 Wrote: Bans on ALL spray weapons and bans on big clips. 7 day waiting period for all other guns. Mandatory psychological evaluation. Bans on online gun sales. Close gunshow loophole. Liability laws for injuries or death resulting from use of the gun.  Mandatory stress training, meaning KNOWING how to use a gun under stress. Licence review like drivers licence. Mandatory viewing of ME exams of those who are victims of gun death. Limits on amounts of guns makeres can make per year.

Now again, nothing in those words says "take away all guns".

What evidence do you have that any of those measures will reduce overall violent crime? You are aware the the guns used in San Ben were already illegal?

Clarification: purchesd legally but illegally modified to be fully auto and accept large magazines.

"Do nothing" is not an option, it certainly is doomed to fail worship of guns attitude doesn't change no matter what we do. Yes I was aware that they were already legal, which proves my point that we are not doing enough to insure those who buy ANY type of gun LEGALLY wont do shit like this. The right cant have it both ways, they cant say they want guns out of the wrong hands, and then complain when the sane side says maybe we should make them harder to get.