(January 27, 2016 at 1:45 am)scoobysnack Wrote:

(January 27, 2016 at 1:26 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: Hi and welcome.

To me atheism is just a term to say, " I am not interested in religious bullshit ".  As for why I don't believe in religion? Well it's mainly because I care about truth

Thanks for your reply! Could you expand on that more? I'd like to know what you don't believe about religion, and why you think truth is opposite of religion. What is truth, and how do you define it?

I like this question.
Its answer can show just how flawed religion is. But the proponents of the religion will utterly fail to understand that point, because they are somehow convinced that they possess the truth brought to them by their god in person.

Truth is an accurate description of reality.
A statement is true when it correlates accurately with reality, either pertaining to events or to objects.

The problem arises when you bring forth statements and claim them to be true, but you have no real way of verifying them.
The party that is perceiving your statements has no way of verifying them. This other party can, however, understand that you yourself have no way of verifying them and should thus be put in a state of non-belief towards your statements.
If you have an alleged description of reality which is utterly unverifiable, odds are that you made it up, dreamed it up, hallucinated it, or were deceived into perceiving it.

(now do tell me how religions aren't guilty of this... can't wait...)

(January 27, 2016 at 1:15 am)scoobysnack Wrote: I'm curious what atheism means to you personally.

For me I take the simplistic approach. Atheism to me simply means I lack belief in gods/deities.

Thanks for everyone's replies. I think all on here consider themselves truth seekers, as I do, which is partly why I joined the forum for discussion. I would say perception of reality is a sum of ones experiences, which is why we all have a different perspective, and come to multiple conclusions. I myself have come to believe there is a god, and spiritual realm based on my research, but I'm not here to judge anyone, just have dialog with fellow free thinkers.

I've researched a lot of psycological warfare, psyops, perception management techniques to control people and drive them through propaganda to reach the desired conclusions. So I understand how the masses can be manipulated for various reasons. Even all the propaganda directed at us here in the US, for us to go along with the government and powerful people and lobbies to keep us in line. There is a hell of a lot information out there, but I think all of you on this board desire information, rather than just accept what a religious leader or book tells us what to believe. I look forward to future civil discussions. Like I said I'm interested in learning all perspectives of people to become more aware of everything so I can form a conclusion based on as much information as possible. I think it's important to receive the full spectrum, to be well rounded, as opposed to narrow minded and have a confirmation bias.

That's wise, scooby. So welcome and have fun here!

Yes the us government is quite heavy handed with its propoganda these days.

Have you read anything on mk ultra? Creepy shit

Have a scooby snack, scoobysnack!



hmmm... is that cannibalism?

Out of curiosity, did you once post on the Star Trek.com forums?

Just being nosey.

(January 27, 2016 at 4:49 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Yes the us government is quite heavy handed with its propoganda these days.

Have you read anything on mk ultra? Creepy shit

Hey, yes I've looked into MK-ULTRA and MK-NAOMI, along with project monarch, and a lot of other psych warfare techniques. We should start a thread on that... I really don't want to derail my introduction thread, but I'll reply.

I don't know how much you have been exposed to, but Cathy O'Brien would be a place to start with her book describing her experiences in Trance Formation of America. Don't know if you have seen the subliminal messages in the National Anthem song video that they used to play on TV stations before ending programming each night. This was way before I was born. There's plenty of info to find, and it would be best for another thread topic.

Until then, check out this video where it slows it down so you can see the hidden messages:
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Here's the messages that flash into the subconscious:

TRUST THE US GOVERNMENT
GOD IS REAL GOD IS WATCHING
BELIEVE IN GOVERNMENT GOD
REBELLION WILL NOT BE TOLERATED
OBEY CONSUME OBEY CONSUME
WORSHIP CONSUME OBEY BELIEVE
BUY ULTRA BUY NAOMI

I'd be interested to talk further about what you have found out.

(January 27, 2016 at 5:13 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Out of curiosity, did you once post on the Star Trek.com forums?

Just being nosey.

No, I haven't.

(January 27, 2016 at 6:17 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:

(January 27, 2016 at 5:13 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Out of curiosity, did you once post on the Star Trek.com forums?

Just being nosey.

No, I haven't.

Thank you.