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(February 2, 2016 at 4:55 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:(February 2, 2016 at 4:50 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: EP, I am good friends with a Muslim and he is nothing like a Nazi. He's a doctor and a super nice person who will do anything to help another person. He doesn't believe killing people is good, and completely disagrees with everything Isis does. That's great for you. I'm not saying Muslims can't be decent people - I know for a fact a lot of them are. I'm saying I wouldn't like to be friends with one in real life. These are adults who have chosen to follow certain ideas. Those ideas include intolerance towards me as an atheist, among other more despicable things. If you are able to look beyond that, good for you. I am not. (February 2, 2016 at 4:50 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: EP, I am good friends with a Muslim and he is nothing like a Nazi. He's a doctor and a super nice person who will do anything to help another person. He doesn't believe killing people is good, and completely disagrees with everything Isis does. I'm glad. I still wouldn't trust him as long as he calls himself a Muslim. (February 2, 2016 at 4:58 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:(February 2, 2016 at 4:55 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: One of the most intelligent, decent men I've ever encountered is a Muslim doctor who helped to train me. The same as many Christians. Again, some are not representative of all. Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???" RE: Brainstorm
February 2, 2016 at 5:04 pm
(This post was last modified: February 2, 2016 at 5:14 pm by Excited Penguin.)
(February 2, 2016 at 5:00 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:(February 2, 2016 at 4:58 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: That's great for you. I'm not saying Muslims can't be decent people - I know for a fact a lot of them are. I'm saying I wouldn't like to be friends with one in real life. These are adults who have chosen to follow certain ideas. Those ideas include intolerance towards me as an atheist, among other more despicable things. If you are able to look beyond that, good for you. I am not. I didn't explicitly say all Muslims are bad. But there is a significant amount that hold despicable views. I'm not about to discern which of them are good and which aren't. Keep in mind we are merely talking here about who I would have a beer with. I wouldn't have one with a Muslim. That doesn't mean I don't believe they have rights same as everyone else. All that means is I wouldn't like to be friends with one. (February 2, 2016 at 4:58 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:(February 2, 2016 at 4:55 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: One of the most intelligent, decent men I've ever encountered is a Muslim doctor who helped to train me. Do you do this with Christians too? Or do you not bother because it's easier to avoid brown people? RE: Brainstorm
February 2, 2016 at 5:19 pm
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(February 2, 2016 at 5:18 pm)Aegon Wrote:(February 2, 2016 at 4:58 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: That's great for you. I'm not saying Muslims can't be decent people - I know for a fact a lot of them are. I'm saying I wouldn't like to be friends with one in real life. These are adults who have chosen to follow certain ideas. Those ideas include intolerance towards me as an atheist, among other more despicable things. If you are able to look beyond that, good for you. I am not. I trust Christians more than I do Muslims. Atheists more than Christians. Antitheists more than Atheists. Rationalists more than anyone. (February 2, 2016 at 5:18 pm)Aegon Wrote:(February 2, 2016 at 4:58 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: That's great for you. I'm not saying Muslims can't be decent people - I know for a fact a lot of them are. I'm saying I wouldn't like to be friends with one in real life. These are adults who have chosen to follow certain ideas. Those ideas include intolerance towards me as an atheist, among other more despicable things. If you are able to look beyond that, good for you. I am not. I don't think color has anything to do with it, since EP is brown himself.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
And you wonder, EP, why you have close to zero respect here. Your last several posts are just one of the reasons why. Just when I was starting to think you had potential to be a decent person, you say stuff like this.
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