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The domestication of religion.
February 10, 2016 at 9:06 am
In particular, Christianity. It's a phrase that I got from Daniel Dennett. Consider this:
Quote:773 Condemned Error: 33. That heretics be burned is against the will of the Spirit.
http://patristica.net/denzinger/
Now, this:
Quote:ROME (RNS) The Vatican has given its backing to a central Rome square being named after Martin Luther, a church reformer excommunicated by the pope nearly 500 years ago.
http://www.religionnews.com/2015/08/26/v...in-luther/
Dawkins, in his The God Delusion, called deism "sexed-up atheism"; is the future of religion, all religions, just "fill-in-the-blank" atheism? Kind of reminds me of that South Park episode.
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RE: The domestication of religion.
February 10, 2016 at 12:55 pm
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That would be pretty awesome. I think deism is much less harmful all round. It's also entirely consistent with scientific knowledge, which can't be said of almost any other form of theism.
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RE: The domestication of religion.
February 10, 2016 at 10:37 pm
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Christianity seems to be evolving towards deism or at least a universal theism, one in which there is no judgment, retribution, hell, etc. No (or at least very few) Christian sects even represent their so-called counterparts from four or five hundred years ago on some "fundamental" points of doctrine. Take the fate of infants who die without Baptism -- the Catholic Church, Luther and Calvin all taught that at least some infants would die in infancy and not end-up in Heaven, in the presence of god.
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RE: The domestication of religion.
February 10, 2016 at 11:38 pm
Some of the comments on that article are pretty good.
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RE: The domestication of religion.
February 10, 2016 at 11:40 pm
We can domesticate them, somewhat, but can they be successfully farmed?
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RE: The domestication of religion.
February 10, 2016 at 11:43 pm
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Am I the only 1 that finds it weird the Seventh Day Adventists, of which there are apparently none of in Italy, are pushing for the Luther honor there ?
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RE: The domestication of religion.
February 11, 2016 at 12:13 am
(February 10, 2016 at 11:43 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Am I the only that finds it weird the Seventh Day Adventists, of which there are apparently none of in Italy, are pushing for the Luther honor there ?
All the Amish are gone from Europe, also. Is there a "religious natural selection" at work here? Does a religion need a "viable population" before going extinct?
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RE: The domestication of religion.
February 11, 2016 at 12:21 am
Any fucking religion is fine.
Just don't include any texts or mantras which may be metaphorised to mean something evil or negative.
An almost impossible task.
In fact, as we all know, it's the person interpreting it to suit their own agendas.
This way, they're all good people just doing their God's work....
Isn't this how it works theists?
Hello? Anyone?
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RE: The domestication of religion.
February 11, 2016 at 8:03 am
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(February 10, 2016 at 11:40 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: We can domesticate them, somewhat, but can they be successfully farmed?
It's been working for the clergy.
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RE: The domestication of religion.
February 12, 2016 at 11:11 am
(February 10, 2016 at 9:06 am)Jehanne Wrote: Dawkins, in his The God Delusion, called deism "sexed-up atheism"; is the future of religion, all religions, just "fill-in-the-blank" atheism? Kind of reminds me of that South Park episode.
Is Deism actually on the rise?
I remember hearing about a bunch of prominent Deists from several hundred years ago, but not so much now. It seemed to fill the role of answering unanswerable questions without paying credence to any of the world's religions. Now that we have science to start filling those gaps in our knowledge, the need for a creator-god to explain these things gets smaller and smaller.
What other use is there for believing in a non-personal god that doesn't care about us? At least the personal god-claims give the believer a sense of security, love, and/or importance.
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