(February 17, 2016 at 1:14 pm)robvalue Wrote: I hate the things.

One day at the range and you would change your mind.

(February 17, 2016 at 1:52 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(February 17, 2016 at 1:47 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: So, a nonsense scenario is sufficient for you?

How is it nonsense, exactly?

How likely are you to meet a rampaging pack of jehadis in your home?

(February 17, 2016 at 1:51 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(February 17, 2016 at 1:50 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: You'll have to take off your hat so I can see it.

Observe, folks: this is what passes for wit in this guy's world.

Bye, little man.

(February 17, 2016 at 1:56 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote:

(February 17, 2016 at 1:52 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: How is it nonsense, exactly?

How likely are you to meet a rampaging pack of jehadis in your home?

You don't just need guns for your home. I thought I already said this.

I also said, for as long as crime is a thing our society confronts, people are going to need guns.

And I say you don't need guns, specifically, to handle the vast majority of the situations. Arming teachers with guns is simply stupid with non-lethal methods are available.

(February 17, 2016 at 1:56 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: Bye, little man.

Ooh, there's that stunning wit again. You're on a roll!

(February 17, 2016 at 2:15 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: And I say you don't need guns, specifically, to handle the vast majority of the situations. Arming teachers with guns is simply stupid with non-lethal methods are available.

I wasn't thinking about teachers in particular. And let me repeat this, for as long as there is crime, we will need guns. No non-lethal methods are as good as guns when it comes to protecting yourself. They might not be preferable because they're lethal, but they are the most efficient. That's why people need to be properly trained how and when to use them. If you're trained, I don't see what your problem is, exactly. Are guns wrong in and of themselves? No, they are not. They can be put to good use and to bad use, just like anything else. If you're taught how to put them to good use, that's all there is to it.

(February 17, 2016 at 2:20 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(February 17, 2016 at 2:15 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: And I say you don't need guns, specifically, to handle the vast majority of the situations. Arming teachers with guns is simply stupid with non-lethal methods are available.

I wasn't thinking about teachers in particular. And let me repeat this, for as long as there is crime, we will need guns. No non-lethal methods are as good as guns when it comes to protecting yourself. They might not be preferable because they're lethal, but they are the most efficient. That's why people need to be properly trained how and when to use them. If you're trained, I don't see what your problem is, exactly. Are guns wrong in and of themselves? No, they are not. They can be put to good use and to bad use, just like anything else. If you're taught how to put them to good use, that's all there is to it.

I guess if all you have is a hammer then everything looks like a nail.  But your rosy glow doesn't shine very bright.

(February 17, 2016 at 1:54 pm)KUSA Wrote:

(February 17, 2016 at 1:14 pm)robvalue Wrote: I hate the things.

One day at the range and you would change your mind.

I doubt it, but who knows

(February 17, 2016 at 2:46 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote:

(February 17, 2016 at 2:20 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: I wasn't thinking about teachers in particular. And let me repeat this, for as long as there is crime, we will need guns. No non-lethal methods are as good as guns when it comes to protecting yourself. They might not be preferable because they're lethal, but they are the most efficient. That's why people need to be properly trained how and when to use them. If you're trained, I don't see what your problem is, exactly. Are guns wrong in and of themselves? No, they are not. They can be put to good use and to bad use, just like anything else. If you're taught how to put them to good use, that's all there is to it.

I guess if all you have is a hammer then everything looks like a nail.  But your rosy glow doesn't shine very bright.

I don't know what you mean by that.