(February 24, 2016 at 10:21 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:

(February 24, 2016 at 10:17 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The idea that liberals don't own guns is hogwash, too.

Well that's true, since I know a few.

I've seen more death threats towards Trump from leftitsts than I've ever seen against anyone.

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vert...2&src=typd

So you've researched death threats against everyone else? You've counted the death threats against Menachim Begin, Malcolm X, and every other human? Because that's what "anyone" means. Never mind the fact that your link doesn't actually tally up a number, never mind the fact that it doesn't support the claim you've made.

No, you haven't done that. What you've done is feed your confirmation bias.

Prove me wrong, or color me unimpressed. I want you to go search out death threats for Trump, tally up that number, and then do the same for Barack Obama. I want hard numbers. You've made a solid claim here. Certainly you have hard numbers, right? Here, this will be even better: give us the top ten people subject to death threats.

Or, alternatively, you can shut your fucking trap because you're talking out of your ass, making exaggerated claims, trying to use hyperbole to sway opinion, and therefore being a cunt.

(By the way, "cunt" isn't something we learn in Liberal PC School to insult people like you ... it's just what I think you're being right now for talking out your backside when you should know better.)

(February 24, 2016 at 10:21 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Well that's true, since I know a few.

I've seen more death threats towards Trump from leftitsts than I've ever seen against anyone.

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vert...2&src=typd

Death threats are not condoned. No one here, liberal they may be, is going to say death threats are an acceptable reaction, and if they do they are wrong. 

Saying that there's more than youve ever seen means nothing in itself but personal testimony that only you understand.


However, why are you honestly surprised by this? A reality TV star turned fascist bigoted racist presidential nominee threatening to ban all Muslims from entering the US, close up any part of the Internet he disagrees with, bomb the middle east, and kill families in the area of attack with no moral sympathy in an effort to eradicate isis? The fact that you're surprised at the level of outrage just shows how utterly naive and ignorant you really are on the very person you're supporting. 

By the way, 
Age does not equate ignorance. So stop pushing the notion that it does in an intellectually dishonest way to invalidate my input on the matter because of the assumption that my age somehow means my positions on the subject are inherently ignorant, or aren't capable of being formed by myself and we're product of some mainstream media outlet like a mindless drone following orders from a master that you dislike.

I am my own person. I think for myself, not someone else thinking for me. And I am not Ill informed. The irony of KUSA and you replying to me with the pre conceived notion that my age should discredit any knowledge I claim to obtain as ignorance while subsequently preaching your support for Donald Trump, a reality TV star, as a viable candidate to run this country is utterly priceless.

(February 24, 2016 at 10:17 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The idea that liberals don't own guns is hogwash, too.

I've had liberal college professors in CO explain to me that they bought a gun because someone broke their window, just to be sure

Rather than threaten him with death, I think them goddamned libruhls should threaten him with a livestream bukkake.

At least his hair would stay in place after that.

(February 25, 2016 at 6:03 am)Alex K Wrote:

(February 24, 2016 at 10:17 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The idea that liberals don't own guns is hogwash, too.

I've had liberal college professors in CO explain to me that they bought a gun because someone broke their window, just to be sure

I live in Central Texas. We have plenty of liberals here who each year go out and hunt. My mother's husband is campaigning for Bernie Sanders, and holds a Concealed Handgun License. I'm sure he'd be happy to shoot any asshole who thinks he's a conservative.

(February 24, 2016 at 2:21 pm)Mathilda Wrote: There is one fundamental difference. Unlike Trump who has filed for bankruptcy multiple times, the fascist movements that made it into power in Europe were actually competent.

I wouldn't be sure on that. Germany's economic policy under Titler had the country tottering on the brink of permanent irreprable collapse from 1936. Hence the increasingly desperate military gambles. He sacked every competent economic and financial manager he had because they all wanted to sacrifice gun making for useful economic activity. And the rest of the naasis weren't much better spending more time knifing their intra party rivals than running the country.

The only area where the NSDAP showed competency was in keeing *shudder* the gas chambers running.

And don't get me started on Italy.

(February 24, 2016 at 10:17 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The idea that liberals don't own guns is hogwash, too.

So liberals can be gun nuts and ammosexuals too?

(February 25, 2016 at 6:00 am)Heat Wrote:

(February 24, 2016 at 10:21 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Well that's true, since I know a few.

I've seen more death threats towards Trump from leftitsts than I've ever seen against anyone.

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vert...2&src=typd

Death threats are not condoned. No one here, liberal they may be, is going to say death threats are an acceptable reaction, and if they do they are wrong. 

Saying that there's more than youve ever seen means nothing in itself but personal testimony that only you understand.


However, why are you honestly surprised by this? A reality TV star turned fascist bigoted racist presidential nominee threatening to ban all Muslims from entering the US, close up any part of the Internet he disagrees with, bomb the middle east, and kill families in the area of attack with no moral sympathy in an effort to eradicate isis? The fact that you're surprised at the level of outrage just shows how utterly naive and ignorant you really are on the very person you're supporting. 

By the way, 
Age does not equate ignorance. So stop pushing the notion that it does in an intellectually dishonest way to invalidate my input on the matter because of the assumption that my age somehow means my positions on the subject are inherently ignorant, or aren't capable of being formed by myself and we're product of some mainstream media outlet like a mindless drone following orders from a master that you dislike.

I am my own person. I think for myself, not someone else thinking for me. And I am not Ill informed. The irony of KUSA and you replying to me with the pre conceived notion that my age should discredit any knowledge I claim to obtain as ignorance while subsequently preaching your support for Donald Trump, a reality TV star, as a viable candidate to run this country is utterly priceless.

This is a fair argument and we should try to get the details to if they are valid for either side. I'd like to hear why he's "fascist bigoted racist" from your point of view.

I'm not impressed with his position on waterboarding and torture, so no points from me for him there. That is worrisome. Although he did say all Muslims, he did say until we get this figured out. Agree the blanket statement of all Muslims is too much, but that was relevant to the the ISIS supporters that attacked France. Do we just want to allow all Muslims in, even though the FBI acknowledges we can't fully investigate all of them and their motives. This was during the time of accepting refugees. Clearly we need to make sure ISIS doesn't sneak through immigration while claiming to be a victim of war. So what I'm thinking is stop immigration from war zones until we can really vet these people. The last thing we need is radicalized jihadis coming in and radicalizing the current Muslim population to become another sleeper cell. Sharia law is incomparable with constitutional law. Even though I haven't heard much uproar from the freedom from religion foundation religion where I live on Muslims because they are really just anti Christian, we can't let the enemy a free ride into our country and allow them to live here. It's suicide.

As far as age, it's a generational thing. The millennials we have today in their twenties for one have been indoctrinated in the educational system, which is mostly leftist leaning. Even I used to be a leftist myself and supported bigger government, until I learned about corruption, and now I realize bigger government means more control by corrupt establishment officials and money.

I'm still not fully against Bernie, just like I'm not fully in support of Trump. I see them both as anti-establishment which is a nice change, and I think that's why they are so popular since as a whole the US is sick of all the shit.

Clinton is so corrupt when you look into her's and Bill's past, they have to be stopped.

(February 25, 2016 at 11:08 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:

(February 25, 2016 at 6:00 am)Heat Wrote: Death threats are not condoned. No one here, liberal they may be, is going to say death threats are an acceptable reaction, and if they do they are wrong. 

Saying that there's more than youve ever seen means nothing in itself but personal testimony that only you understand.


However, why are you honestly surprised by this? A reality TV star turned fascist bigoted racist presidential nominee threatening to ban all Muslims from entering the US, close up any part of the Internet he disagrees with, bomb the middle east, and kill families in the area of attack with no moral sympathy in an effort to eradicate isis? The fact that you're surprised at the level of outrage just shows how utterly naive and ignorant you really are on the very person you're supporting. 

By the way, 
Age does not equate ignorance. So stop pushing the notion that it does in an intellectually dishonest way to invalidate my input on the matter because of the assumption that my age somehow means my positions on the subject are inherently ignorant, or aren't capable of being formed by myself and we're product of some mainstream media outlet like a mindless drone following orders from a master that you dislike.

I am my own person. I think for myself, not someone else thinking for me. And I am not Ill informed. The irony of KUSA and you replying to me with the pre conceived notion that my age should discredit any knowledge I claim to obtain as ignorance while subsequently preaching your support for Donald Trump, a reality TV star, as a viable candidate to run this country is utterly priceless.

This is a fair argument and we should try to get the details to if they are valid for either side. I'd like to hear why he's "fascist bigoted racist" from your point of view.

I'm not impressed with his position on waterboarding and torture, so no points from me for him there. That is worrisome. Although he did say all Muslims, he did say until we get this figured out. Agree the blanket statement of all Muslims is too much, but that was relevant to the the ISIS supporters that attacked France. Do we just want to allow all Muslims in, even though the FBI acknowledges we can't fully investigate all of them and their motives. This was during the time of accepting refugees. Clearly we need to make sure ISIS doesn't sneak through immigration while claiming to be a victim of war. So what I'm thinking is stop immigration from war zones until we can really vet these people. The last thing we need is radicalized jihadis coming in and radicalizing the current Muslim population to become another sleeper cell. Sharia law is incomparable with constitutional law. Even though I haven't heard much uproar from the freedom from religion foundation religion where I live on Muslims because they are really just anti Christian, we can't let the enemy a free ride into our country and allow them to live here. It's suicide.

As far as age, it's a generational thing. The millennials we have today in their twenties for one have been indoctrinated in the educational system, which is mostly leftist leaning. Even I used to be a leftist myself and supported bigger government, until I learned about corruption, and now I realize bigger government means more control by corrupt establishment officials and money.

I'm still not fully against Bernie, just like I'm not fully in support of Trump. I see them both as anti-establishment which is a nice change, and I think that's why they are so popular since as a whole the US is sick of all the shit.

Clinton is so corrupt when you look into her's and Bill's past, they have to be stopped.

Banning all Muslims is not making an effort to get anything "sorted out".

What do you think all of the muslim population is woopdey-doo-da believe whatever the fuck they please? Someone coming in here to try and "radicalize them" would be an utter failure, most certainly however it wouldn't result in the current muslim population saying "uh huh, so you say the american pigs are evil and trying to take our islamic state? you're saying all americans hate us? You must be right." What kind of paranoia is it, that to eradicate one issue, we must assume the 90% of other muslims who aren't radical at all, as radical. It's preposterous to me that even on an atheism forum we have people debating whether or not to ban a single religion. The KKK was a spawn of christianity, who used the bible to justify killing blacks in america. Should we ban CHRISTIANS?

Oh you're right, it only applies because it's an issue right now, we obviously don't care about parallel issues from the past.


I fucking hate your attempt at generalizing in effort to justify a terrible policy. I thought you right wingers were supposed to be preaching non-stop about how america is free, and we are the biggest free nation. Guess that doesn't apply to religious freedoms does it?


By the way let me just implore you to theorize how we would even go about determining if someone is or isn't a Muslim. Unless you want to turn in to germany, and replace jews with Muslims, there is no civil way that's effective enough to do what Donald Trump wants to accomplish.

Political leaders can do whatever they want as long as they have minions who are wiling to do what they want done.