(February 27, 2016 at 2:28 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(February 27, 2016 at 1:03 am)Heat Wrote: That is incredibly scary.

By the way, do you think Hitler started out saying "let's kill all the jews"? What makes you, or anyone else think that it will stop at banning.

It depends on how far the minions are willing to go.  A few might be willing to toss people into the wood chipper but maybe most will be content with something less drastic.  If the other side won't play nice why should we?  Hardly anyone can kill people like Americans can so never think that we won't go on a rampage.

As I've said before, Hitler gets a bad rap because he concentrated on killing white people.  Other people have been responsible for more deaths than him and they aren't even mentioned because their victims weren't whites.

You literally just repeated Hitlers rhetoric.

"If the other side won't play nice why should we?" .. "Don't think we don't hold power over you"

Who cares about Hitler getting a bad rap. The point is that HE CONCENTRATED ON PERSECUTING A RELIGION, and speaking like you just did is on path to do the same. How can you be so fucking ignorant to not see the parallel. Maybe it's just that you don't give a shit if it's a parallel because they are Muslims and you don't see them as people?

Do you not think the people of Germany were content with things less drastic? Yet somehow people that didn't condone killing any jew in the beginning did so at the end. It's called propaganda. What you just said, if not taken seriously, could literally lead us down the same path as 1940's Nazi Germany. "Oh it won't be that drastic". "We control the power anyways, they need to respect that". "They've never been nice to us".

The mindset you have is despicable, and immoral. If you don't see it as a big deal to ban Muslims from this country you can sincerely go fuck yourself, because I do.

(February 27, 2016 at 3:04 am)Heat Wrote:

(February 27, 2016 at 2:28 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: It depends on how far the minions are willing to go.  A few might be willing to toss people into the wood chipper but maybe most will be content with something less drastic.  If the other side won't play nice why should we?  Hardly anyone can kill people like Americans can so never think that we won't go on a rampage.

As I've said before, Hitler gets a bad rap because he concentrated on killing white people.  Other people have been responsible for more deaths than him and they aren't even mentioned because their victims weren't whites.

You literally just repeated Hitlers rhetoric.

"If the other side won't play nice why should we?" .. "Don't think we don't hold power over you"

Who cares about Hitler getting a bad rap. The point is that HE CONCENTRATED ON PERSECUTING A RELIGION, and speaking like you just did is on path to do the same. How can you be so fucking ignorant to not see the parallel. Maybe it's just that you don't give a shit if it's a parallel because they are Muslims and you don't see them as people?

Do you not think the people of Germany were content with things less drastic? Yet somehow people that didn't condone killing any jew in the beginning did so at the end. It's called propaganda. What you just said, if not taken seriously, could literally lead us down the same path as 1940's Nazi Germany. "Oh it won't be that drastic". "We control the power anyways, they need to respect that". "They've never been nice to us".

The mindset you have is despicable, and immoral. If you don't see it as a big deal to ban Muslims from this country you can sincerely go fuck yourself, because I do.

The Jews, especially the upper class and the Zionists, were domestic enemies of the German State.  They were always trying to get the Western nations to attack Germany or overthrow the government and install a commie one.  In between they launched a world-wide boycott of German goods and services.  And when the Nazis wanted to expel them a lot of them wouldn't leave.  Once the shooting started the Nazis couldn't leave them to roam about as a fifth column.   

And no one could throw BS propaganda like the Americans could.  They blabbed that they were fighting for freedom and democracy in the meantime they were throwing Japanese Americans in concentration camps, forcing South American countries to expel German Jews and interning them in American and Canadian concentration camps, and lynching and discriminating against black American citizens.  They were so racist they wouldn't even let black American Soldiers kill white German Nazis. 

If we want to ban or expel muslims from America we can do it without any problem.  We've done a lot worse things and will a lot worse in the future.  

We have the best propaganda in the world.  There isn't anything it can't make you believe.  

The main reason we have had an influx of muslims is because the dummies in Washington wanted to overthrow their governments, sell arms, and import them as slave labor for the food processing companies.  So if Trump wants to deport them he's the only one who has had the balls to say so.  It might be a good thing to restore some balance.  But I don't see how he thinks he will be able to steal their oil without some major problems.

He claims that he won't flood the area with troops.  http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pres...ke-the-oil

(February 27, 2016 at 3:33 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(February 27, 2016 at 3:04 am)Heat Wrote: You literally just repeated Hitlers rhetoric.

"If the other side won't play nice why should we?" .. "Don't think we don't hold power over you"

Who cares about Hitler getting a bad rap. The point is that HE CONCENTRATED ON PERSECUTING A RELIGION, and speaking like you just did is on path to do the same. How can you be so fucking ignorant to not see the parallel. Maybe it's just that you don't give a shit if it's a parallel because they are Muslims and you don't see them as people?

Do you not think the people of Germany were content with things less drastic? Yet somehow people that didn't condone killing any jew in the beginning did so at the end. It's called propaganda. What you just said, if not taken seriously, could literally lead us down the same path as 1940's Nazi Germany. "Oh it won't be that drastic". "We control the power anyways, they need to respect that". "They've never been nice to us".

The mindset you have is despicable, and immoral. If you don't see it as a big deal to ban Muslims from this country you can sincerely go fuck yourself, because I do.

The Jews, especially the upper class and the Zionists, were domestic enemies of the German State.  They were always trying to get the Western nations to attack Germany or overthrow the government and install a commie one.  In between they launched a world-wide boycott of German goods and services.  And when the Nazis wanted to expel them a lot of them wouldn't leave.  Once the shooting started the Nazis couldn't leave them to roam about as a fifth column.   

And no one could throw BS propaganda like the Americans could.  They blabbed that they were fighting for freedom and democracy in the meantime they were throwing Japanese Americans in concentration camps, forcing South American countries to expel German Jews and interning them in American and Canadian concentration camps, and lynching and discriminating against black American citizens.  They were so racist they wouldn't even let black American Soldiers kill white German Nazis. 

If we want to ban or expel muslims from America we can do it without any problem.  We've done a lot worse things and will a lot worse in the future.  

We have the best propaganda in the world.  There isn't anything it can't make you believe.  

The main reason we have had an influx of muslims is because the dummies in Washington wanted to overthrow their governments, sell arms, and import them as slave labor for the food processing companies.  So if Trump wants to deport them he's the only one who has had the balls to say so.  It might be a good thing to restore some balance.  But I don't see how he thinks he will be able to steal their oil without some major problems.

He claims that he won't flood the area with troops.  http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pres...ke-the-oil

Justifying the Holocaust.

Not worth my time.

(February 27, 2016 at 3:52 am)Heat Wrote:

(February 27, 2016 at 3:33 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The Jews, especially the upper class and the Zionists, were domestic enemies of the German State.  They were always trying to get the Western nations to attack Germany or overthrow the government and install a commie one.  In between they launched a world-wide boycott of German goods and services.  And when the Nazis wanted to expel them a lot of them wouldn't leave.  Once the shooting started the Nazis couldn't leave them to roam about as a fifth column.   

And no one could throw BS propaganda like the Americans could.  They blabbed that they were fighting for freedom and democracy in the meantime they were throwing Japanese Americans in concentration camps, forcing South American countries to expel German Jews and interning them in American and Canadian concentration camps, and lynching and discriminating against black American citizens.  They were so racist they wouldn't even let black American Soldiers kill white German Nazis. 

If we want to ban or expel muslims from America we can do it without any problem.  We've done a lot worse things and will a lot worse in the future.  

We have the best propaganda in the world.  There isn't anything it can't make you believe.  

The main reason we have had an influx of muslims is because the dummies in Washington wanted to overthrow their governments, sell arms, and import them as slave labor for the food processing companies.  So if Trump wants to deport them he's the only one who has had the balls to say so.  It might be a good thing to restore some balance.  But I don't see how he thinks he will be able to steal their oil without some major problems.

He claims that he won't flood the area with troops.  http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pres...ke-the-oil

Justifying the Holocaust.

Not worth my time.

I notice you conveniently ignored the part when Americans were throwing people in camps too.

(February 27, 2016 at 4:04 am)Bella Morte Wrote: I notice you conveniently ignored the part when Americans were throwing people in camps too.

What camps would those be?

(February 27, 2016 at 4:06 am)Kitan Wrote:

(February 27, 2016 at 4:04 am)Bella Morte Wrote: I notice you conveniently ignored the part when Americans were throwing people in camps too.

What camps would those be?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment..._Americans
http://www.history.com/topics/world-war-...relocation
http://www.ushistory.org/us/51e.asp

You know, just these. While they may have never reached the level of the Nazi camps, they remain a stain on the US human rights record.

(February 27, 2016 at 4:04 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(February 27, 2016 at 3:52 am)Heat Wrote: Justifying the Holocaust.

Not worth my time.

I notice you conveniently ignored the part when Americans were throwing people in camps too.

I didn't. 
I just refuse to entertain the idea that the Holocaust was even in the least bit justified.

(February 27, 2016 at 4:33 am)Heat Wrote:

(February 27, 2016 at 4:04 am)Bella Morte Wrote: I notice you conveniently ignored the part when Americans were throwing people in camps too.

I didn't. 
I just refuse to entertain the idea that the Holocaust was even in the least bit justified.

Ah, well that's alright then.

(February 26, 2016 at 9:53 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Appreciate your perspective and would like to hear more since you live there and I obviously don't.

I read the story about how Trump was wrong, but have also read how the local UK police say the government is just trying to cover it up, maybe just to be PC. Do you feel comfortable going into the areas of the article? I have an uncle in England, but he has never mentioned anything about Muslims making things difficult, but I don't talk to him much.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/625545/...ion-London

There is a story in Germany where the cops are being investigated for reporting the rapes, which the government was trying to cover up.

I agree the EU is in trouble for quite a while, but also wonder if the current migration problem hasn't made things get out of control quickly. Did you get a chance to watch that short video on Muslim demographics, and how they are growing compared to the fertility rates of native Europeans. Does that worry you at all? England for example has a 1.6 percent fertility rate of native Europeans, which is unsustainable especially with welfare programs, because you need at least 2.1 percent just to maintain population, and in order to support the elderly, you need to have people entering the workforce as they leave, but if you have more leaving than entering it all collapses. The fertility rate of Muslims outnumbers natives, in many EU countries, which means that by 2025 a majority. I'd be curious what you think of this:

I've seen those Muslim demographics videos before and I disregard anything that extrapolates an exponential curve. Exponential curves in the real world are just the beginning of a sigmoid function which saturates. Those videos about Muslim demographics don't take into account that the same factors that apply to the fecundity of the native population also soon apply to the immigrant population. Like the effect of education on the next generation or that there are all kinds of different races living here. Religion is on the decline in the UK. The demographic time bomb has been a long time in the making because of the baby boomers and the general solution here has always been to bring in immigrants from everywhere else, not just Muslim. Also to make the younger generation work for longer, i.e. by stopping funding to go to university, raising the age of retirement and robbing the pension funds.

I have also seen videos of Muslims being extreme, but you can just as easily point to the non Muslim right wing extremists, both are the equivalent of each and both are a minority.

There are absolutely no places in the UK that I'm afraid to go because of Muslims. Obviously there are dodgy places in general but there have always been those, and nor has that ever stopped me in the past. Right wing groups have caused problems by marching through Muslim areas or protesting and guess what happens ...

York Mosque praised for offering EDL protesters tea

(February 24, 2016 at 9:50 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:

(February 24, 2016 at 11:37 am)Heat Wrote: Nope, it's the racist, angry, bigots who will support Trump, and most of them happen to have guns(which is an entirely different problem). However, if Trump does become president, sooner or later a 'well armed militia' will wake up, or a smarter, bigger one will arise as a result of a Donald trump presidency. 

By the way, you are ignorant for supporting Trump. You might be a racist, you might be a bigot, but most of all alike other supporters you are simply and willfully ignorant.

See the thing is the left has become a cult, and all they do is label people, racist, bigots, xenophobic, sexist, homophobic, islamophobic, etc. It's become a joke and people are sick of it. Seriously the left says anyone who is against Obama's policies is secretly racist, or anyone who is against Hillary is because they are sexist. The left has become brainwashed through political correctness which is really just thought and speech control. I'm surprised I haven't heard them say if they are against Bernice Sanderista is because they are antisemitic.

And what well armed milita would rise up? The limp wristed leftists who don't want to own guns?

Trump is great because he's exposing the BS. He's not great at uniting people however, and far from perfect.

America has no left anymore, it has drifted so far to the right in recent years that people whose policies would have been seen as extreme right wing are now the norm. From Europe we watch the possible election of an arrogant, bullying lying idiot to position of any power as scary but it is a possibility that president Trump could happen. http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-m...nald-trump