(March 31, 2016 at 12:09 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Kasich is a scumbag, too.

He's getting the Sanders treatment - generally ignored by the opposition because they don't consider him a serious threat.

In what context? My mom votes republican and I hate that fact. If she were running for office I'd still hate her economic views. I don't think everyone we might disagree with is "scum" and for him to say what he has knowing it will sink him, says to me, outside of economics, he is not fake. It takes a lot to tell those in your own ranks to shut the fuck up. The GOP's top selling point is scaring the shit out of everyone with Islam, an even he said we cant be scaring Muslims living here so bad they are unwilling to help. I agree.That does not change he is still part of the economic right, but I do think he is not a demagogue. 

He'd be more like Jefferson and Adams deal, those two guys fought on almost everything but were never really enemies ever. He is risking his seat right now and any future presidential bid saying the the things against his own party. 

And lets remember, when America fought Hitler, it wasn't just democrats or republicans and it wasn't just Christians or whites. I do hate the climate of the right right now absolutely, but I wont throw out every single individual as a blanket solution. Just like not every atheist is PC and not every atheist votes liberal. 

I simply see his economic policies evil, but there really was a time when the republican party was worth voting for and valued workers and secular government. I think he has simply realized the win is not worth it. He is throwing himself under the bus.

(March 31, 2016 at 2:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(March 31, 2016 at 12:09 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Kasich is a scumbag, too.

He's getting the Sanders treatment - generally ignored by the opposition because they don't consider him a serious threat.

In what context? My mom votes republican and I hate that fact. If she were running for office I'd still hate her economic views. I don't think everyone we might disagree with is "scum" and for him to say what he has knowing it will sink him, says to me, outside of economics, he is not fake. It takes a lot to tell those in your own ranks to shut the fuck up. The GOP's top selling point is scaring the shit out of everyone with Islam, an even he said we cant be scaring Muslims living here so bad they are unwilling to help. I agree.That does not change he is still part of the economic right, but I do think he is not a demagogue. 

He'd be more like Jefferson and Adams deal, those two guys fought on almost everything but were never really enemies ever. He is risking his seat right now and any future presidential bid saying the the things against his own party. 

And lets remember, when America fought Hitler, it wasn't just democrats or republicans and it wasn't just Christians or whites. I do hate the climate of the right right now absolutely, but I wont throw out every single individual as a blanket solution. Just like not every atheist is PC and not every atheist votes liberal. 

I simply see his economic policies evil, but there really was a time when the republican party was worth voting for and valued workers and secular government. I think he has simply realized the win is not worth it. He is throwing himself under the bus.

         I know what you mean by this current climate, the infighting has gotten bad on both sides. This election could be one of the most important in recent years and it's not to be taken lightly in any sense. In the right corner you have a known racist, who is also a major hustler. He has defrauded millions from investors with his scams and tactics. He says he is a man of the people, a man of the of the people does not encourage violence unless absolutely necessary. He poses as a typical left wing conservative when he views our more of a right wing party hard liner. He is of the Bush era pro war types who does not care what the cost of his actions are, as long as he gets his goals are achieved. If you thought Bush and Chaney were bad, wait till you see Trump and his VP. They will become far wealthier then the Bush family combined. I would not put it past him to work the Koch brothers to cause conflicts; they profit and military grows larger and Americans rights gets stripped even further.
 In the left corner, we have a woman who poses a equal threat, in a variety of different ways. Her values do mirror the surface of a neo-liberial, with the stench of a conservative democrat. She's far from a good candid, and her money trail is less dirty then Trump and his allies. On the plus side though, she's more tolerant of foreign nationals and would be a better candidate in that regard.


         Over all though, this is far from over, and a chance for candidate Sanders is still possible. Let's just hope that both parties go's to a open convention to give us a fighting chance to keep both candidate Hillary and candidate Trump out of the general election. If it came down to it, could you stomach a Kasich presidency if Sanders did lose?

The bottom is dropping out of Trump's poll numbers.

His national disapproval numbers are terrible. His disapproval is even >50% among non-college whites - his base. His overall numbers are similar to George W Bush's in his final year as President.

(March 31, 2016 at 8:00 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: The bottom is dropping out of Trump's poll numbers.

His national disapproval numbers are terrible. His disapproval is even >50% among non-college whites - his base. His overall numbers are similar to George W Bush's in his final year as President.

         Thank you AFTT47 for posting this, I was hoping that more people would come to there senses about Trump. Let's just hope that GOP can get the final push and not nominative him. If all goes well this will be the end of Trump, it may be comedy gold to watch him bitch and moan about it on his T.V show.

(March 31, 2016 at 8:25 pm)Sterben Wrote:

(March 31, 2016 at 8:00 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: The bottom is dropping out of Trump's poll numbers.

His national disapproval numbers are terrible. His disapproval is even >50% among non-college whites - his base. His overall numbers are similar to George W Bush's in his final year as President.

         Let's just hope that GOP can get the final push and not nominative him.

I'm hoping no such thing. I want Trump nominated because that's a guaranteed win for the Democrat. I think his childish insults on Heidi Cruz may have been a fatal mistake though.

Kasich:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/...t-campaign

Quote:John Kasich has been billed as moderate candidate, but his record is anything but

Quote:Across the state he has made an enemy of public sector unions, teachers and environmentalists with attacks on collective bargaining, cuts to funding of public schools alongside scandals in the charter school education sector, and enthusiastic support for oil and gas production via fracking – even though that has not brought as much prosperity to the state as some think.
“The people in Ohio who know him are stunned that he has been allowed to get away with calling himself a moderate,” said Sandy Theis, executive director of the liberal thinktank Progress Ohio.
“He is a climate change denier, he has had a scandal in his heavily championed support of charter schools, unemployment has gone down but poverty has risen in the state, we have a terrible infant mortality rate for African American babies – I could go on. Maybe the middle has moved so far to the right that there is no genuine moderate in the Republican race anymore,” she said.

Amusingly, we have to hear about this from The Guardian....because the bullshit 'murrican media is putting out this 'moderate' shit about him.

You know, Cruz hasn't accomplished anything in the senate.  Trump has never been elected to anything.  But Kasich has actually done shit.  That's why he's a bullshit artist.

(March 31, 2016 at 8:36 pm)AFTT47 Wrote:

(March 31, 2016 at 8:25 pm)Sterben Wrote:          Let's just hope that GOP can get the final push and not nominative him.

I'm hoping no such thing. I want Trump nominated because that's a guaranteed win for the Democrat. I think his childish insults on Heidi Cruz may have been a fatal mistake though.

I want the republicunts to tear themselves to shreds at the convention so that Trump runs as a 3d party and takes all of his asshole fans with him.  1912 all over again.


Meanwhile....Trump is beating the other assholes in NY and Pennsylvania.... 95 delegates in NY and 71 in Penn.  Winner-take-all.

(March 31, 2016 at 8:45 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(March 31, 2016 at 8:36 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: I'm hoping no such thing. I want Trump nominated because that's a guaranteed win for the Democrat. I think his childish insults on Heidi Cruz may have been a fatal mistake though.

I want the republicunts to tear themselves to shreds at the convention so that Trump runs as a 3d party and takes all of his asshole fans with him.  1912 all over again.

No doubt, that's the wet dream scenario. Even better if a riot breaks out at the convention and they all hack each other to death with sharpened Popsicle sticks. I'll happily settle for just winning the Whitehouse again though.

(March 31, 2016 at 9:04 pm)AFTT47 Wrote:

(March 31, 2016 at 8:45 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I want the republicunts to tear themselves to shreds at the convention so that Trump runs as a 3d party and takes all of his asshole fans with him.  1912 all over again.

No doubt, that's the wet dream scenario. Even better if a riot breaks out at the convention and they all hack each other to death with sharpened Popsicle sticks. I'll happily settle for just winning the Whitehouse again though.

    A massive fight erupting at the GOP convention, now that would be an event that would go viral. All you would have is put on some aggressive metal and you got yourself a presidential mosh pit. Trump with his tiny hands trying to punch out Ted Cruz. Wouldn't such an event be pay per view worthy? Let's take a pole here, Cruz vs Trump in a fist fight, who goes down first?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEKfZWs3T_E

Why do you think I want them to bring their fucking guns?

I'd love to have the ammo concession.